Dear All, (01)
Here are the material from our regular OntoIOp team conference call.
Kindly review and advise of any error, omission or edit. (02)
1. the audio archive for the (n.51) OntoIOp teleconference of Wed
2014.01.29 is now online: (03)
* Date: Wednesday 29-Jan-2014
* Meeting time: 1604 ~ 1733 UTC
* length/format/size: 1:28:39 , mp3 , 10.15 MB
* accessible directly as:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-01-29_team-confcall_n.51/OntoIOp-n51_20140129b.mp3 (04)
3. The chat-transcript (lightly edited) is attached below, which is
also available as:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-01-29_team-confcall_n.51/OntoIOp-confcall-n51_chat-transcript_20140129b.txt (05)
4. Our next regular team meetings will be in two weeks, start time
will be the same as this week's... (06)
= OntoIOp team-confcall (n.52) - Wed 2014.02.12 = (07)
* Date: Wed 12-Feb-2014
* start-time: 8:00am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00pm CET / 6:00pm SAST /
1:00am [+1] KST / 16:00 GMT/UTC
** ref. world clock -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=12&year=2014&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
* Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs.
* shared-file workspace:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-02-12_team-confcall_n.52/
* chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20140212 (08)
Please mark your calendars. (09)
Regards. =ppy (010)
on behalf of the session chair
Till Mossakowski
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Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20140129
2014-01-29 GMT-08:00 [PST]
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[8:02] PeterYim: . (014)
= OntoIOp team-confcall (n.51) - Wed 2014.01.29 = (015)
* Date: Wed 29-Jan-2014
* start-time: 8:00am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00pm CET / 6:00pm SAST /
1:00am [+1] KST / 16:00 GMT/UTC
** ref. world clock -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=29&year=2014&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
* Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs. (016)
Dial-in:
* Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#
* Skype: joinconference (i.e. make a skype call to the contact with
skypeID="joinconference")
... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184# (017)
* in-session chat-workspace:
http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20140129 (018)
* shared-file workspace:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-01-29_team-confcall_n.51/ (019)
AGENDA - (ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-forum/2014-01/msg00008.html
) (020)
* see slides at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-01-29_team-confcall_n.51/OntoIOp-slides--TillMossakowski-OliverKutz-ChristophLange-MihaiCodescu_20140129-a.pdf (021)
Remarks: (022)
* the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless
otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of
their participation at the session. (023)
* In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo)
- Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute (024)
* Skype users:
** There has been some issues with skype connections lately
(variously reported by people from different locations.) Therefore, if
you are using skype and the connection to "joinconference" is not
holding up, try using (your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either
your phone, skype-out or google-voice and call the US dial-in number:
+1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#
** some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada &
UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/
** for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be
under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"
** if the dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to
press the"d" hotkey to enable it. (--CLange) (025)
Attendees: TillMossakowski (chair), ChristophLange, ConradBock,
FabianNeuhaus, MariaKeet, MichaelGruninger, OliverKutz, PeterYim
(scribe), TaraAthan, TerryLongstreth. (026)
== Proceedings: == (027)
[8:01] anonymous morphed into ConradBock (028)
[8:04] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski starts the call ... (029)
[8:04] List of members: ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus, OliverKutz,
PeterYim, TaraAthan, TerryLongstreth, TillMossakowski (030)
[8:05] PeterYim: TillMossakowski: missing MichaelGruninger and ChristophLange (031)
[8:06] PeterYim: Till: concerning the March meeting, ElisaKendall
wants to find out who will be there, and whether we want to share the
room with the API4KB people (032)
[8:06] ConradBock: I'll be at the March meeting. (033)
[8:06] PeterYim: Fabian: I also received something from CoryCasanave (034)
[8:06] PeterYim: ChristophLange joins the call (035)
[8:11] PeterYim: ConradBock: for this March meeting, OntoIOp does not
necessarily has to be there (as no presentation from this group is on
the agenda) (036)
[8:15] PeterYim: ConradBock: the important meeting is the December
meeting, as we are "submitting" then (037)
[8:12] PeterYim: MichaelGruninger joins the call (038)
[8:14] anonymous morphed into MariaKeet (039)
[8:14] TillMossakowski: forthcoming OMG meetings: March 24-28, 2014 in
Reston, Virginia, and June 16-20, 2014 in Boston, Massachusetts (040)
[8:15] TillMossakowski: and September 15-19, 2014 in Austin, Texas,
and December 8-12, 2014 in Long Beach, California (041)
[8:17] TillMossakowski: Sept 22-25, 2014: FOIS conference (all events) (042)
[8:18] TillMossakowski: summer school: one week before FOIS, so this
overlaps with the Austin OMG meeting (043)
[8:18] MichaelGruninger: IAOA Summer School is the week before FOIS
(i.e. the week before Sep 22-25) (044)
[8:21] TerryLongstreth: I'm available for DC area activities, but have
no funding for registration or fees (045)
[8:23] PeterYim: Till & All: we will discuss who is planning to be at
the Mar 24~28, 2014 OMG meeting offline ... (046)
[8:26] TillMossakowski: a LOI has been sent by Fraunhofer Fokus.
Thematix, U Toronto and U Magdeburg will do so as well. (047)
[8:27] TillMossakowski: Further potential partners (from the API4KB group): (048)
[8:27] TillMossakowski: These are the folks on the "official" LOI list
for API4KBs at the moment: (049)
88Solutions -- Manfred Koethe, koethe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Adaptive -- Pete Rivett, pete.rivett@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Deere & Company -- Roger Burkhart, BurkhartRogerM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mayo Clinic -- Harold Solbrig, Solbrig.Harold@xxxxxxxx
Progeny Systems -- I'm not sure who, will have to look this up, but
they haven't participated at all
Thematix Partners LLC (me)
University of Aberdeen -- Jeff Pan, jeff.z.pan@xxxxxxxxxx (050)
We recently reopened the LOI list, and anticipate that (051)
ACORD -- Ed Skoviak, eskoviak@xxxxxxxxx
Arizona State University -- Davide Sottara, dsotty@xxxxxxxxx
Freie Universitat Berlin -- Adrian Paschke, paschke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (052)
[8:27] TaraAthan: Mark Proctor - contact with RedHat/JBoss (053)
[8:27] TillMossakowski: Tara: RedHat may be interested, with their
middleware product JBoss (054)
[8:28] TillMossakowski: Conrad: beyond the submitters, there can be supporters (055)
[8:29] TillMossakowski: NIST can be a supporter (056)
[8:30] PeterYim: Conrad: technically the proposal only needs 1 (one)
LOI ... having more would be nice, obviously ... (057)
[8:30] TillMossakowski: Conrad: the list of supporters is often much
longer than that of LOI submitters. Supporters need not be OMG
members. (058)
[8:31] TillMossakowski: Fabian: we can ask all Ontohub users to become
supporters (059)
[8:32] TillMossakowski: Conrad: supporters should answer the business
committee questionaire about the implemented software (060)
[8:33] PeterYim: === TillMossakowski, presenting the talk on DOL ...
see slides at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2014-01-29_team-confcall_n.51/OntoIOp-slides--TillMossakowski-OliverKutz-ChristophLange-MihaiCodescu_20140129-a.pdf (061)
[8:34] PeterYim: Till: this will be the current design of DOL, which
is the basis of our submission (062)
[8:34] ChristophLange: @TillMossakowski: Is the list of authors
correct? Isn't at least FabianNeuhaus also an author? (I'm happy to be
listed, of course, if it's for my earlier contributions or for any
feedback I'll be happy to give any time.) (063)
[8:37] TerryLongstreth: Slide 8 - annotations too light to read (064)
[8:37] ChristophLange: Slide 6: protocal -> protocol (065)
[8:38] ChristophLange: Slide 8: might be feasible to let Hets export
to PS and then edit that (066)
[8:38] ChristophLange: Slide 9: I'd put more space between the boxes
so that at least part of the arrows can flow between (067)
[8:39] TerryLongstreth: OSM - if not an OMG term, should show definition (068)
[8:40] PeterYim: Conrad: source reference for slide#9 please (069)
[8:41] TerryLongstreth: Slide 16 - remove 'unlikely' (070)
[8:42] TerryLongstreth: Slide 18 - 'flattenable' == linear representation? (071)
[8:42] ChristophLange: Slide 17: spelling is WoMO (072)
[8:45] ChristophLange: Slide 20: make cl-text bold (i'm afraid needs
to be enforced manually; doesn't work via listing[keywords=] (073)
[8:48] TaraAthan: Slide 20 shows a CL example that depends on certain
features of the CL semantics that actually don't hold in the current
CL standard, are proposed for the CL revision, but are under fire for
some quarters. To what extent does DOL depend on these features of the
CL semantics? (074)
[8:48] MariaKeet: slide 21: put the example in the %def bulletpoint
together, as it is an example of that one only (075)
[8:49] MariaKeet: slide 21: perhaps also add examples for the other ones (076)
[8:52] PeterYim: Conrad / Michael / Till: clarification of "extension"
and "expansion" on slide#21 (077)
[8:55] TerryLongstreth: I have to break off in 5 minutes for another meeting. (078)
[8:57] ConradBock: Slide 21, second bullet, subbullet, presumably
should have "-model" on the end. (079)
[8:58] ConradBock: Same for fourth bullet, subbullet. (080)
[9:01] TerryLongstreth: Bye all. I'll check back in two weeks. (081)
[9:01] TillMossakowski: bye (082)
[9:05] TaraAthan: Slide 25, 26 - (X+y) -> (x+y) (083)
[9:09] ChristophLange: Slide 26: seems I forgot to include the
"forget" keyword. I'll update lstsemantic.sty (084)
[9:10] ChristophLange: pushed to
https://github.com/clange/latex/blob/master/lstsemantic.sty - which is
where i'm maintaining this now. Be sure to always update from there (085)
[9:14] MariaKeet: I have to leave. bye all. (086)
[9:15] ChristophLange: Slide 29: If you use
[alsolanguage=owl2Manchester] you should get syntax highlighting for
Individual, DifferentFrom, Types and "not" (087)
[9:15] ChristophLange: Slide 29: mimimal -> minimal (bullet 2) (088)
[9:19] ConradBock: On the topic of usability of syntax, the word
"then" is usually taken as implication or temporal precedence. Maybe
"+" or something else would be better. (089)
[9:19] ChristophLange: Slide 30: initital -> initial (090)
[9:20] ChristophLange: @ConradBock: there is already the "and" keyword
whose semantics is different from "then", so it's difficult to choose
a wording that wouldn't cause further confusion (091)
[9:21] ChristophLange: Slide 30: is the "unit <space> mt" correct or
is something missing there? (092)
[9:23] ChristophLange: Slide 34 and following: LaTeX might make some
of the |->, <-> etc. arrows nicer to read ({listing}[mathescape], and
then simply use $...$) (093)
[9:23] PeterYim: Till: finished presenting up to slide#31 ... will
leave the rest (slides#32 to end (#53)) to our next meeting (094)
[9:24] TaraAthan: (le le le) (095)
[9:25] ConradBock: @Christoph, There are probably many better terms
(eg, "+" or "plus"), "then" has too much existing meaning, even in
logic languages, not to mention in natural language. (096)
[9:35] TaraAthan: bye (097)
[9:35] PeterYim: Till: next meeting (n.52) - Wed 2014.02.12 -
start-time: 8:00am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00pm CET / 6:00pm SAST /
1:00am [+1] KST / 16:00 GMT/UTC (098)
[9:36] PeterYim: -- session ended: 6:33pm CET -- (099)
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