Dear All, (01)
Here are the material from our 46th OntoIOp team conference call.
Kindly review and advise of any error, omission or edit. (02)
1. the audio archive for the (n.46) OntoIOp teleconference of Wed
2013.11.06 is now online: (03)
* Date: Wednesday 6-Nov-2013
* Meeting time: 1509 ~ 1638 UTC
* length/format/size: 1:23:25 , mp3 , 9.55 MB
* accessible directly as:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2013-11-06_team-confcall_n.46/OntoIOp-n46_20131106b.mp3 (04)
3. The chat-transcript (lightly edited) is attached below, which is
also available as:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2013-11-06_team-confcall_n.46/OntoIOp-confcall-n46_chat-transcript_20131106b.txt (05)
4. Our next regular team meetings will be in two weeks, same time - i.e. Wed
2013.11.20 ... (06)
= OntoIOp team-confcall (n.47) - Wed 2013.11.20 = (07)
Date: Wed 20-Nov-2013
start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST /
0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC
* ref. world clock -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=20&year=2013&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs.
* shared-file workspace:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2013-11-20_team-confcall_n.47/
* chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20131120 (08)
Please mark your calendars. (09)
Regards. =ppy
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Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20131106
2013-11-06 GMT-08:00 [PST]
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[7:01] PeterYim: . (013)
= OntoIOp team-confcall (n.46) - Wed 2013.11.06 = (014)
Date: Wed 6-Nov-2013
start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST /
0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC
* ref. world clock
-http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=6&year=2013&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs. (015)
Dial-in:
* Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184#
* Skype: joinconference (i.e. make a skype call to the contact with
skypeID="joinconference") ... when prompted enter Conference ID:
141184# (016)
* in-session chat-workspace:
http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontoiop_20131106 (017)
* shared-file workspace:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Team_confcall/2013-11-06_team-confcall_n.46/ (018)
* Latest version is available at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HkMaPJNWqpvU0QyqQ4fIWT3ZxoCr6I469GA0aoTHHXo/edit (019)
Remarks: (020)
* the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless
otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue
of their participation at the session. (021)
* In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo)
- Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute (022)
* for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad?
... it may be under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" (023)
* There has been some issues with skype connections (variously reported
by people from different locations.) Therefore, if you are using skype
and the connection to "joinconference" is not holding up, try using
(your favorite POTS or VoIP line, etc.) either your phone, skype-out
or google-voice and call the US dial-in number:
+1 (206) 402-0100 ... when prompted enter Conference ID: 141184# (024)
* some local numbers may be available (in the US, Australia, Canada
& UK) - see: http://instantteleseminar.com/Local/ (025)
* for Windows Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it may be
under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" (026)
* for Linux Skype users: please note that the dial-pad is only
available on v4.1 (or later or the earlier Skype versions 2.x,) if the
dialpad button is not shown in the call window you need to press the
"d" hotkey to enable it. (--CLange) (027)
AGENDA - re: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-forum/2013-11/msg00001.html (028)
* At this telcon, we want to discuss the working draft. Several people have
agreed to add some motivational words. Please add your part if you have
not done so yet. -TillMossakowski (029)
Attendees: TillMossakowski (co-chair), MichaelGruninger (co-chair),
ChristophLange, ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus, OliverKutz, PeterYim
(scribe), RoyBell, TerryLongstreth
* Regrets: StefanoBorgo (030)
== Proceedings: == (031)
[7:01] anonymous morphed into ChristophLange (032)
[7:06] PeterYim: see RFP input thread, starting from Fabian's post at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-forum/2013-11/msg00004.html (033)
[7:06] anonymous morphed into ConradBock (034)
[7:08] anonymous morphed into RoyBell (035)
[7:09] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski starts the meeting ... (036)
[7:09] PeterYim: Till: RFP to be sent out next Monday (037)
[7:10] PeterYim: Till: let's go through the RFP section by section -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HkMaPJNWqpvU0QyqQ4fIWT3ZxoCr6I469GA0aoTHHXo/edit (038)
[7:11] PeterYim: Till: ... now section 6.1 (039)
[7:18] List of members: ChristophLange, ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus,
MichaelGruninger, PeterYim, RoyBell, TillMossakowski (040)
[7:18] FabianNeuhaus: hallo, sorry for being late (041)
[7:20] PeterYim: OliverKutz is also on the phone (and not in the chat-room yet!) (042)
[7:24] PeterYim: [consensus] Ontologies, specifications and models
will (for the purpose of this document) henceforth be subsumed under
the notion of logical theory. [logical theory -> OSM] (043)
[7:35] PeterYim: Till: will work on elaboration of use cases 4 & 5 (044)
[7:37] PeterYim: Till: ... now section 6.3.1 (045)
[7:40] PeterYim: [consensus] ... the list is all that's needed (just a
listing, or adding one sentence should suffice), as is (046)
[7:41] PeterYim: Till: needs to leave now ... please continue (047)
[7:41] PeterYim / ChristophLange: ... now section 6.3.2 (048)
[7:55] PeterYim: [consensus] 6.3.2 2nd bullet updated: "Semantic
Information Modeling for Federation (SIMF) requests a modeling
language for supporting information modeling. Responses to the OntoIOp
RFP will provide a metalanguage for the relationships among modeling
languages and the OSMs that are specified in the metalanguage." (049)
[7:55] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5 (050)
[7:56] ChristophLange: Till to delete the editorial comments in the
intro of 6.5 before submission (051)
[7:57] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.1 (052)
[7:59] PeterYim: ( TerryLongstreth just joined ) (053)
[8:00] TerryLongstreth: Sorry - I missed the time change (054)
[8:02] PeterYim: @Terry - it wasn't the time change ... Till
actually moved the meeting an hour early (055)
[8:01] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.2 (056)
[8:15] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.4 (057)
[8:16] ChristophLange: [consensus] Comment about "criteria for
translation" is sufficiently addressed by bullet 3 (058)
[8:16] ChristophLange: Now section 6.5.6 (059)
[8:19] ChristophLange: changed "that occurs in the context of the
meta-language" -> "that occurs or that is referred to in " (060)
[8:21] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.6.2 (061)
[8:24] PeterYim: [consensus] we will leave out "ABD Logic" for now,
until that develops a bit more in the CL discussions ... but "leave
comment in as a reminder" (062)
[8:26] PeterYim: [consensus] removing "fuzzy logics" (063)
[8:30] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.8 (064)
[8:35] PeterYim: [consensus] removing: "Proposals covering the same
set of features with a more compact, orthogonal syntax will be
favored." (065)
[8:36] MichaelGruninger: Comment for Till: Should we remove the
sentence in 6.8 that says "Proposals covering a broader range of
features and of examples will be favored. An initial set of examples
is provided, using some preliminary syntax for the meta-language" (066)
[8:37] PeterYim: next meeting, same time 2 weeks from now - OntoIOp
team-confcall (n.47) - Wed 2013.11.20 - start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00
am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC (067)
[8:38] PeterYim: -- session ended: 5:38pm CET / 16:38 GMT/UTC -- (068)
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