Hi Peter and others, (01)
Just a short note to clarfy EarthCube goals and its audience.
EarthCube is being run under the Geosciences Directorate which
includes three programs: solid earth science (called EAR;
environmental science maybe part of this program), Ocean and
Atmospheric Sciences. So ontology development should be inclusive of
everything related to the earth. The first seven planned and funded
domain workshops are from the EAR program (tectonics, geochemistry,
paleontology, petrology, etc), and other domain workshops from the
Oceans and Atmospheric programs will follow.
So your activities should be inclusive of use cases, and their
ontologic solutions from all three programs, and would fit well with
EarthCube semantics/ontology objectives. That was the reason I
supported volcanism and associated subdisciplines as a use case (in
the semantics roadmap submitted to NSF) because it involves all three
programs.
Therefore I would encourage all of you to reach out to geoscientists
in any of these programs to reach a broader domain audience.
Just for the record my primary research activties are within many of
the subdisciplines of solid earth science( tectonics, geochemistry,
geochronology,field geology,petrology,ore deposit, and volcanic
products), although volcanoes in the oceans comes under the ocean
science program.
We do have an opportunity to think very broadly about the earth, and
the kinds of ontology practices that would enable domain experts to
do better science. (02)
Hope these comments help,
Krishna. (03)
Quoting Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx>: (04)
> Not being trained in the domain, I, for one, need clarification and
> education.
>
> Is "EarthCube" only concerned with "Earth" or "Earth and Environmental"
> Sciences?
>
> (... this may just be the same as Dalia's question; then, maybe not) ...
> should we consider Ocean Science, Atmospheric Science, Environmental
> Science, etc. in-scope here, or out of scope? Is this consistent with our
> Mini-Series "Mission Statement" now, or do we need to tweak that a bit to
> make sure there is no ambiguity?
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
> On Aug 9, 2012 9:37 AM, "Dalia E Varanka" <dvaranka@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've looked at the NSF 7 geo end-user workshop categories, but Krishna
>> verbally mentioned, in addition to these, 3 main focus areas. I think 2 of
>> them were ocean and atmosphere - Krishna, would you be willing to restate
>> this point (unless you have no idea what I'm talking about)?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> To: EarthScienceOntolog Mini-series
>> Planning <mini-series-org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 08/08/2012 10:44 PM
>> Subject: [EarthScienceOntolog] Proceedings: 2nd organizing committee
>> meeting - Fri 2012.08.03 Sent by: mini-series-org-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>> The full proceedings of our Aug-3 (2nd) organizing committee meeting
>> are now available online.
>> See under:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DGD
>>
>> Please review and edit the details as they pertain to you (and what
>> you brought up) to enhance the accuracy and granularity of the
>> documented proceedings. Kindly take note of pertinent action items and
>> act on them accordingly.
>>
>> In particular, the following are ones (not limited to these, of
>> course) that need immediate attention:
>>
>> * we need MarkSchildhauer and MikeDean to confirm their acceptance of
>> the co-chair roles, respectively for sessions 4 and 5. (Please start
>> coordinating with your respective co-chairs for the session as well.)
>> ... [Attn: Mark & Mike, please confirm]
>>
>> * we need Krishna to take the lead and try, possibly by enlisting
>> NSF's help, to engage each and every one of the principals driving the
>> upcoming seven (or so) Geo end-user workshops, to get involved and
>> support this mini-series. First contacts to be made, hopefully, within
>> this week.
>>
>> * the kick-off session is now scheduled for Thu 2012.08.23 a 2-Hr
>> virtual panel session starting at 9:30am PDT / 12:30am EDT / 16:30
>> UTC, with KrishnaSinha and LeoObrst co-chairing. Krishna and Leo,
>> please supply the title, abstract, list of panelists and their talk
>> title ASAP (hopefully by Tue Aug-14.)
>>
>> * it would be nice if all session co-chairs would turn in (say, also
>> by Aug-14) their preliminary session title, abstract or session plan,
>> and a list of candidate panelists you are planning to contact and
>> engage (this is important for coordination reasons as it's almost the
>> same pool of panelists that everyone may be working off.) Kindly take
>> note of the general session guidelines as discussed under
>>
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DQI
>> ** ... send your input to this list or post it directly to the wiki
>> under:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DB8
>> and then make a post here to point people to your work there.
>>
>> * we got a lot of input and recommendations for candidate panelists
>> and expertise they can offer. Please refer to the discussion under:
>>
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DQM
>> ... kindly continue to make recommendations; and, remember that we are
>> aiming at having half the panelists at each session to be from the
>> GeoScience domain, and half from the CompuetrScience or Ontology
>> domain.
>>
>> * please step up efforts in trying to engage Geo-scientists'
>> participation. Any idea on how we can more effectively engage them is
>> highly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > == REMINDER: ==
>> >
>> > Our 2nd organizing committee meeting (conference call) is coming up
>> tomorrow.
>> >
>> > See dial-in details below.
>> >
>> > I have also created the session workspace on the wiki for this
>> > meeting. Please point your browser to that when dialing into the
>> > meeting.
>> > Goto:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DGD
>> > ... Kindly review the agenda and add suggested items under "agenda
>> > ideas" as you see fit.
>> >
>> > Please also review the EarthScienceOntolog Mini-series homepage too
>> > at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog
>> > ... I have just added in the Mission and Program details from
>> > KrishnaSinha and LeoObrst there (ref.
>> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/mini-series-org/2012-08/msg00000.html )
>> >
>> > RSVP (regrets only ... especially if you haven't yet responded.)
>> >
>> > Regards. =ppy
>> > --
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank for very much for catching that, Krzysztof, ... yes, it should
>> >> be Friday August 3rd.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Therefore, please ignore my earlier post today; I'm re-stating the
>> >> entire set of event details as follows:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> = EarthScienceOntolog mini-series - 2nd Organizing Committee Meeting =
>> >>
>> >> Date/Time: Friday 2012.08.03
>> >> Start time: 2:00pm EDT /11:00am PDT
>> >> Duration: ~1.0-hr (augmented telecon)
>> >>
>> >> Dial-in: Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... PIN: 141184#
>> >> or
>> >> Skype: joinconference ... PIN: 141184#
>> >>
>> >> Chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20120803
>> >>
>> >> AGENDA: to adopt our mini-series "Mission" and "Program," clarify and
>> >> identify all co-chair roles; share thoughts and coordinate session
>> >> content and panelists invitations.
>> >>
>> >> REMARKS:
>> >> * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless otherwise
>> >> documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their
>> >> participation at the session.
>> >>
>> >> * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo)
>> >> - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute
>> >>
>> >> * for Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the
>> >> "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please mark your calendars ... talk to you all then, hopefully!
>> >> RSVP (regrets only!)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In the mean time, let's continue to develop this over this mailing
>> >> list, and finalize things by the time of the call. It's all the more
>> >> important for those on this team who will not be able to join us at
>> >> the call to provide their input via this mailing list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> >> --
>>
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