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Adam, Francesca,
Sorry for the delay in responding.
iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 04/10/2013 05:26:02 PM:
> It looks like there are a few issues that need to be resolved before
> we begin creating terminology content (or whatever our end-product
> should be called).
>
> Can we first establish some basic (very basic) administrative
> infrastructure. I know we want input from the various user and
> contributor communities, but without some initial absolutism, we
> won't be able to proceed.
>
> 1. establish a dedicated communication channel so that we can work
> on the subsequent items below. I propose that I create a mailing list at
> shiftingbalance.org (my own domain). When we build up some momentum,
--->>> Okay, but I think e-mail would suffice for this 'reopening'.
> There are various proposals below about how we ought to communicate,
> but I don't see any resolution.
>
> 2. create some committee-like structure, in which there a
> chairperson, who doesn't have more authority but is responsible for
> doing things like calling for votes, making sure it's clear what we
> have resolved, when we have resolved something, trying to direct
> discussion, keeping track of what each person is committed to doing.
>
> I volunteer, if no one else will.
--->>> I second Adam's volunteering:) But we should be careful we don't
violate any IAOA rules with such a structure. I'll admit I haven't
read through all the IAOA rules, so can't say more.
Perhaps more importantly, is there a need for another committee
and it attendant processes or are there adequate existing
IAOA processes to support the goals?
> 3. Set an initial deadline for ourselves to come up with some long-
> term goals and how we might get a start and formulate some broadly
> stated general principles that people gathering information and
> formulating the definitions might refer to.
--->>> A deadline is probably a good idea.
As to goals, from the current wiki page (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IaoaOntologyTerminology)
"Given the interdisciplinary nature of applied ontology and how it has developed
over the last few decades there are many terms used in ambiguous or even inconsistent
ways across relevant communities. In order to facilitate and promote the use of applied
ontology a consistent set of terms and their interpretations in important. "
So the high level goal might be,
'To provide the field of applied ontology with a consistent set of
terms and their interpretations.'
Then the challenge is how to implement this goal. One way is to decompose
it further (as sub-goals leading to fairly specific requirements), or
just devise a (loose) strategy to realize it (and then execute it).
I prefer the 'fuzzy/loose' path, until such time that it's no longer
viable.
Thoughts?
Todd
>
> On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]" <
> francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> To the IAOA Subcommittee for Terminology:
>
> After considerations with the other IAOA members last Monday (April
> 8th), we agreed it might be a good idea to revitalize past projects,
> such as the Terminology one.
>
> In our last conversation (reported below) we checked the active
> interest of three of the seven original members of the group.
> If you've changed your mind / can find some free time in the
> upcoming months to still get involved in the project, please let us
> know. We could reopen a community discussion.
>
> Thank you for your interest,
Todd
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> From: tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx [tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:43 PM
> To: QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]
> Cc: IAOA Education Committee; iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Work Progress
> Francesca,
>
> There are at least 3 of us, as Adam pointed out. Though I know there
> are others on the sidelines
> waiting to see what comes of this work.
>
> As to communications, though it may be more efficient to engage in
> point-to-point communications,
> since this is an IAOA effort I think we should use the IAOA mailing mechanism.
>
> Todd
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:36:21 +0000, "QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]" <
> francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Todd and All,
>
> and thank you for the prompt and clear answer. Last questions, as I
> might have missed sth.
> How many people are currently actively involved in this project? How
> many do still plan to contribute?
>
> If interest has meanwhile evaporated, we could narrow down the
> discussion to private emails for quicker communication and stick to
> the deadline.
>
> Best, F.
>
> From: TSchneider [tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:56 AM
> To: QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]
> Cc: IAOA Education Committee; iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Work Progress
> Francesca,
>
> 1. Dividing the work: That would be good. I've been making additions
> as I come across attributable definitions. As to getting things
> started, they already have and you've contributed to this start. The
> real challenge is to complete this first phase.
>
> 2. Deadlines: Well, we probably should. I'd proposed 31 December
> 2012 to complete this first phase that consists of the 'difficult'
> terms. Currently there are 27 of these, with a couple being
> synonymous (e.g., endurant, continuant).
>
> What has yet to be done is associating the definition(s) with the
> applicable domain, if there is one, or indicating the definition is
> valid for all domains.
> Here a 'domain' is one of those identified in the diagram near the
> top of the page.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Todd
>
> On 10/27/2012 11:40 PM, QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r] wrote:
> To the Subcommittee.
>
> I hope you're All doing fine.
>
> I'll try to rephrase my last request, since I couldn't get direct
> answers. Maybe the Chairs can help us in this.
>
> 1. Do you think we can fairly divide the work among all Subcommittee
> members, so to get things started?
> 2. Would it be ok if we set some tentative deadlines?
>
> Thank you for your time and advice,
> best, F.
>
> From: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [iaoa-education-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r] [
> francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 12:40 AM
> To: IAOA Education Committee
> Cc: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] Consolidation of issues
> To the Subcommittee:
>
> thank you for your emails.
>
> Do you think it would be possible for the chairs to plan deadlines
> and work division among team members for the first phase?
>
> Also, would it be possible to get more info on the phases mentioned
> (Todd's last email)? How many of them are you thinking of? Could you
> provide us with a tentative schedule?
>
> Grateful for your indications.
>
> Best, F.
>
> From: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [iaoa-education-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Todd J Schneider [
> todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:14 PM
> To: IAOA Education Committee
> Cc: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] Consolidation of issues
> Adam, Fabian, Francesca, and all interested members,
>
> Sorry for the delay in responding. So here's a proposed
> (form of a) project plan (that extends Adam's consolidation
> of issues).
>
> Goal: To promote the use of applied ontology by easing the
> burden of understanding core and common concepts
> by providing a list of terminology and their interpretations,
> based on discipline domain (e.g., philosophy, conceptual
> modeling, logic, representation languages, computation, etc.).
> And allowing for differences in interpretation (with explanation).
>
> Vetting: The list will be made public after being affirmed by the
> IAOA membership.
>
> Scope: Applied Ontology and its contributing or underpinning
> disciplines along with related areas (e.g., semantic web,
> logic programming, etc.).
>
> Schedule: The terminology/interpretation list will be produced
> in phases. The result of each phase will be an extension
> of the previous list that has been affirmed by the
> IAOA membership.
>
> Organization: The lead editors are the chairs of the terminology
> subcommittee.
>
> Discipline Editors/Managers - Each applicable discipline
> should provide editorial guidance for those
> terms having an interpretation in their
> discipline. It should be within their
> purview to allow or assign editors to
> individual or sets of terms.
>
> Todd
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> 52:46 PM---On Sep 21, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Fabian Neuhaus <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote: >
>
> From: "Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS" <z_californianus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: IAOA Education Committee <iaoa-education@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 09/26/2012 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] Consolidation of issues
> Sent by: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Fabian Neuhaus <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > Adam,
> >
> >>
> >> 3. Crowd-sourcing (differences articulated)
> >> Open discussion up to all of IAOA membership
> >> OR
> >> Restrict discussion to members of the lexicon working group
> >
> > The dichotomy of "restricted" vs. "open" might be interpreted in a
> misleading way. As far as I am concerned (and I would be very
> surprised if Antony sees this differently), any interested IAOA
> member is welcome to join the education committee and its
> subcommittees. Thus, no IAOA member is restricted from participating
> in the lexicon project.
> >
> > Thus, the only choice is whether the discussion within the
> subcommittee should take place on the general IAOA member list or on
> some other list. One reason for having specialized committees and
> associated mailing list is that not everybody in the IAOA is
> interested in everything that is going on. Thus, it seems obvious to
> me that we don't want to have a terminology discussion on the IAOA
> member list, but on a mailing list whose audience is restricted to
> people who are likely interested in the subject. So either the
> discussion should happen on a designated mailing list for the
> subcommittee or it should happen on the education committee list.
> >
> > I recommend to continue to use the education committee list,
> because you will get the benefit of contributions from people who
> are interested but do not have the time to commit to regular
> contributions. Frank's email is a good case in point. By the way,
> all EC council members are on the education mailing list; thus, this
> is also a way to keep the EC in the loop.
> >
>
> OK, unless there are dissenting opinions, I think we can declare
> that we have decided to continue to use the education committee list.
>
> Unless I am missing it somehow, are there others out there with
> suggestions about how to proceed? Do we have any specific goals at
> this point? I will try to add to the proposed list of terms and also
> see if I can add to definitions.
>
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