Hi Adam,
thank you for the reply.
> 1. establish a dedicated communication channel so that we can work on the subsequent items below.
I agree. For the domain we can discuss whether to keep it open or private, but I agree that we should switch to the IAOA project main page to report first collective results.
It might result chaotic for different users to enter all definitions in one web page only.
> 2. create some committee-like structure, in which there a chairperson, who doesn't have more authority but is responsible for doing things...I volunteer, if no one else will.
Sounds great, thanks.
> 3. Set an initial deadline.
I'm in. In case it becomes too tight with my research planning, I'll raise my hand.
F.
From: Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS [z_californianus-dated-1366061175.9b44ef@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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To: QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]
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Subject: Re: Terminology Project: Reopening discussions
Hi all
I would like to revitalize this project, and I do have some time to work on it; I have been working like crazy to get my tenure portfolio in and to write papers, etc., so I could look like a good candidate. But now that's over. Fingers crossed.
It looks like there are a few issues that need to be resolved before we begin creating terminology content (or whatever our end-product should be called).
Can we first establish some basic (very basic) administrative infrastructure. I know we want input from the various user and contributor communities, but without some initial absolutism, we won't be able to proceed.
1. establish a dedicated communication channel so that we can work on the subsequent items below. I propose that I create a mailing list at
shiftingbalance.org (my own domain). When we build up some momentum, we can start using the IAOA communication infrastructure.
There are various proposals below about how we ought to communicate, but I don't see any resolution.
2. create some committee-like structure, in which there a chairperson, who doesn't have more authority but is responsible for doing things like calling for votes, making sure it's clear what we have resolved, when we have resolved something, trying to
direct discussion, keeping track of what each person is committed to doing.
I volunteer, if no one else will.
3. Set an initial deadline for ourselves to come up with some long-term goals and how we might get a start and formulate some broadly stated general principles that people gathering information and formulating the definitions might refer to.
I'll stop here with my suggestions to see what people think---
To the IAOA Subcommittee for Terminology:
After considerations with the other IAOA members last Monday (April 8th), we agreed it might be a good idea to revitalize past projects, such as the Terminology one.
In our last conversation (reported below) we checked the active interest of three of the seven original members of the group.
If you've changed your mind / can find some free time in the upcoming months to still get involved in the project, please let us know. We could reopen a community discussion.
Thank you for your interest,
F.
Francesca,
There are at least 3 of us, as Adam pointed out. Though I know there are others on the sidelines
waiting to see what comes of this work.
As to communications, though it may be more efficient to engage in point-to-point communications,
since this is an IAOA effort I think we should use the IAOA mailing mechanism.
Todd
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:36:21 +0000, "QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]" <francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Todd and All,
and thank you for the prompt and clear answer. Last questions, as I might have missed sth.
How many people are currently actively involved in this project? How many do still plan to contribute?
If interest has meanwhile evaporated, we could narrow down the discussion to private emails for quicker communication and stick to the deadline.
Best, F.
Francesca,
1. Dividing the work: That would be good. I've been making additions as I come across attributable definitions. As to getting things started, they already have and you've contributed to this start. The real challenge is to complete this first phase.
2. Deadlines: Well, we probably should. I'd proposed 31 December 2012 to complete this first phase that consists of the 'difficult' terms. Currently there are 27 of these, with a couple being synonymous (e.g., endurant, continuant).
What has yet to be done is associating the definition(s) with the applicable domain, if there is one, or indicating the definition is valid for all domains.
Here a 'domain' is one of those identified in the diagram near the top of the page.
Thoughts?
Todd
On 10/27/2012 11:40 PM, QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r] wrote:
To the Subcommittee.
I hope you're All doing fine.
I'll try to rephrase my last request, since I couldn't get direct answers. Maybe the Chairs can help us in this.
1. Do you think we can fairly divide the work among all Subcommittee members, so to get things started?
2. Would it be ok if we set some tentative deadlines?
Thank you for your time and advice,
best, F.
To the Subcommittee:
thank you for your emails.
Do you think it would be possible for the chairs to plan deadlines and work division among team members for the first phase?
Also, would it be possible to get more info on the phases mentioned (Todd's last email)? How many of them are you thinking of? Could you provide us with a tentative schedule?
Grateful for your indications.
Best, F.
Adam, Fabian, Francesca, and all interested members,
Sorry for the delay in responding. So here's a proposed
(form of a) project plan (that extends Adam's consolidation
of issues).
Goal: To promote the use of applied ontology by easing the
burden of understanding core and common concepts
by providing a list of terminology and their interpretations,
based on discipline domain (e.g., philosophy, conceptual
modeling, logic, representation languages, computation, etc.).
And allowing for differences in interpretation (with explanation).
Vetting: The list will be made public after being affirmed by the
IAOA membership.
Scope: Applied Ontology and its contributing or underpinning
disciplines along with related areas (e.g., semantic web,
logic programming, etc.).
Schedule: The terminology/interpretation list will be produced
in phases. The result of each phase will be an extension
of the previous list that has been affirmed by the
IAOA membership.
Organization: The lead editors are the chairs of the terminology
subcommittee.
Discipline Editors/Managers - Each applicable discipline
should provide editorial guidance for those
terms having an interpretation in their
discipline. It should be within their
purview to allow or assign editors to
individual or sets of terms.
Todd
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Date: 09/26/2012 12:52 PM
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>> 3. Crowd-sourcing (differences articulated)
>> Open discussion up to all of IAOA membership
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>> Restrict discussion to members of the lexicon working group
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> The dichotomy of "restricted" vs. "open" might be interpreted in a misleading way. As far as I am concerned (and I would be very surprised if Antony sees this differently), any interested IAOA member is welcome to join the education committee and its subcommittees.
Thus, no IAOA member is restricted from participating in the lexicon project.
>
> Thus, the only choice is whether the discussion within the subcommittee should take place on the general IAOA member list or on some other list. One reason for having specialized committees and associated mailing list is that not everybody in the IAOA is
interested in everything that is going on. Thus, it seems obvious to me that we don't want to have a terminology discussion on the IAOA member list, but on a mailing list whose audience is restricted to people who are likely interested in the subject. So either
the discussion should happen on a designated mailing list for the subcommittee or it should happen on the education committee list.
>
> I recommend to continue to use the education committee list, because you will get the benefit of contributions from people who are interested but do not have the time to commit to regular contributions. Frank's email is a good case in point. By the way,
all EC council members are on the education mailing list; thus, this is also a way to keep the EC in the loop.
>
OK, unless there are dissenting opinions, I think we can declare that we have decided to continue to use the education committee list.
Unless I am missing it somehow, are there others out there with suggestions about how to proceed? Do we have any specific goals at this point? I will try to add to the proposed list of terms and also see if I can add to definitions.
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