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Re: [iaoa-education] Consolidation of issues

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From: Todd J Schneider <todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:13:06 -0400
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Adam, et al.,

Where to begin? As I initial proposed those terms used
during this year IAOA summer school that are posted on
the wiki page. There after, hmm ....... I think it best
to work on the more difficult terms first, probably
those originating from, or used in, philosophy (some
of which are in the current list).

During this 'first' phase it may be the case that additional
terms in need of clarification will arise naturally.

However, from a project management perspective, I think
we should agree on the list for this 'first' phase
and work through to an initial set of interpretations,
then let the membership decide what's missing, in terms
of the work completed. This will help guide the next
'phase' (i.e., the process will evolve).

And I agree, spending time trying to devise the best
'starting' list won't be a fruitful use of our time.

I think if the current list (on the wiki page) is an
insufficient starting point, this will be brought to
our attention by the membership.

Todd

Inactive hide details for "Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS" ---10/05/2012 02:01:54 AM---On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "QUATTRI, "Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS" ---10/05/2012 02:01:54 AM---On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]" <francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> w

From: "Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS" <z_californianus-dated-1349827535.3e9cc6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]" <francesca.quattri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    To the Subcommittee:

    thank you for your emails.

    Do you think it would be possible for the chairs to plan deadlines and work division among team members for the first phase?

The idea of phases is good…but what are the phases going to be? Perhaps this is our next discussion.

It's hard to know where to begin. One thought is to make an informal survey of people in a range of user groups to find out what posed or still poses difficulties for them.

Another thought is that we might start with terms a beginner is most likely to come across.

We did resolve to include basic terms in the lexicon?

I don't think we should spend too much time deciding what terms we will cover in the first phase. It would be good to start work. If there are terms that are especially important, we can work on those in later phases.

    Also, would it be possible to get more info on the phases mentioned (Todd's last email)? How many of them are you thinking of? Could you provide us with a tentative schedule?

    Grateful for your indications.

    Best, F.



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    Adam, Fabian, Francesca, and all interested members,

    Sorry for the delay in responding. So here's a proposed
    (form of a) project plan (that extends Adam's consolidation
    of issues).


    Goal: To promote the use of applied ontology by easing the
         burden of understanding core and common concepts
         by providing a list of terminology and their interpretations,
         based on discipline domain (e.g., philosophy, conceptual
         modeling, logic, representation languages, computation, etc.).
         And allowing for differences in interpretation (with explanation).

    Vetting: The list will be made public after being affirmed by the
         IAOA membership.


    Scope: Applied Ontology and its contributing or underpinning
          disciplines along with related areas (e.g., semantic web,
          logic programming, etc.).


    Schedule: The terminology/interpretation list will be produced
             in phases. The result of each phase will be an extension
             of the previous list that has been affirmed by the
             IAOA membership.


    Organization: The lead editors are the chairs of the terminology
             subcommittee.


             Discipline Editors/Managers - Each applicable discipline
                        should provide editorial guidance for those
                        terms having an interpretation in their
                        discipline. It should be within their
                        purview to allow or assign editors to
                        individual or sets of terms.


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    "Dr. Adam M. Goldstein PhD MSLIS" ---09/26/2012 12:52:46 PM---On Sep 21, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Fabian Neuhaus <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >

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    Date:
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    On Sep 21, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Fabian Neuhaus <
    fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

    >
    > Adam,
    >
    >>
    >> 3. Crowd-sourcing (differences articulated)
    >> Open discussion up to all of IAOA membership
    >> OR
    >> Restrict discussion to members of the lexicon working group
    >
    > The dichotomy of "restricted" vs. "open" might be interpreted in a misleading way. As far as I am concerned (and I would be very surprised if Antony sees this differently), any interested IAOA member is welcome to join the education committee and its subcommittees. Thus, no IAOA member is restricted from participating in the lexicon project.
    >
    > Thus, the only choice is whether the discussion within the subcommittee should take place on the general IAOA member list or on some other list. One reason for having specialized committees and associated mailing list is that not everybody in the IAOA is interested in everything that is going on. Thus, it seems obvious to me that we don't want to have a terminology discussion on the IAOA member list, but on a mailing list whose audience is restricted to people who are likely interested in the subject. So either the discussion should happen on a designated mailing list for the subcommittee or it should happen on the education committee list.
    >
    > I recommend to continue to use the education committee list, because you will get the benefit of contributions from people  who are interested but do not have the time to commit to regular contributions. Frank's email is a good case in point. By the way, all EC council members are on the education mailing list; thus, this is also a way to keep the EC in the loop.
    >

    OK, unless there are dissenting opinions, I think we can declare that we have decided to continue to use the education committee list.

    Unless I am missing it somehow, are there others out there with suggestions about how to proceed? Do we have any specific goals at this point? I will try to add to the proposed list of terms and also see if I can add to definitions.

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