Dear all,
I'm traveling and do not have regular access to email. Things will be even
worse for me next week.
Pls, put Claudio in cc (he is not in the mailing list) so at least one of
us can read this exchange.
Cheers
-S (01)
> I see, this might have been a misunderstanding. I completely agree with
> Antony. When I suggested more exercises, then I did not mean "introduction
> to Protege" kind of exercises, but exercises in ontological analysis that
> complement the lectures. During the Ontology Summit on education there
> seemed to be a wide consensus that ontology education needs to involve
> hands-on experience for students.
>
> Fabian
>
> On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Galton, Antony wrote:
>
>> Yes, I’m happy with that perspective – but there is still “practical “
>> work to do in ontological analysis – i.e., actually getting down to
>> analysing something ...
>>
>> Antony
>>
>> From: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nicola
>> Guarino
>> Sent: 11 January 2012 17:24
>> To: IAOA Education Committee
>> Cc: masolo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] IAOA summer school: courses and ecturers
>> proposal)
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> just for clarification, at the Vespucci institute I made a
>> case for a relatively low level summer school (i.e.,
>> addressing people who don't know what an ontology is), but I
>> wasn't meaning a "practical" summer school. After all, we
>> need to differentiate ourself, for instance, from the
>> ontologies & semantic web summer school being organised in
>> Spain, which has a very practical orientation.
>>
>> I believe there are various courses available nowadays that
>> approch ontologies form the practical point of view. What
>> seems to lack in my opinion are opportunities to bring home
>> stimulating ideas about what does it mean to do ontological
>> analysis, what are the main competences needed, what are the
>> open problems, and so on. So in my opinion the focus would
>> be more on ontological analysis than on ontological
>> engineering. A model Claudio and Stefano have in mind is
>> that of the ESSLLI summer school, the prestigious European
>> Summer School on Logic, Language and Information
>> (www.esslli2012.pl).
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> Nicola
>>
>> On 11 Jan 2012, at 17:06, Werner Kuhn wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I promised not to interfere much this year, so never wait for me ;-)
>>
>> Still, I cannot quite resist. My 2 cents of advice for this year would
>> be to take a problem-driven approach and have mostly lecturers who
>> personally do ontology development, as a more or less daily activity.
>> People like Pustejowsky and Talmy are fascinating scientists and have
>> very important things to say, but I am not sure they can help much with
>> ontology engineering.
>>
>> Of course, it all depends on what level you have in mind for the
>> attendees and the school overall. Last year, in preparing a Vespucci
>> Institute (typically at an advanced level), some people including Nicola
>> made a strong case for a complementary, relatively low level, practical
>> summer school. I agree with this case, and since we delayed it then, we
>> may want to act on it now.
>>
>> Also, we discussed alternating between levels last year, and I like this
>> idea. But we can also aim for a middle level, or an annual event at the
>> lower level, or whatever else. My only point is we need to decide when
>> picking lecturers.
>>
>> cheers, and a big thank you to Stefano and Claudio for taking on the
>> charge!
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> --
>> Werner Kuhn
>> Institute for Geoinformatics
>> University of Muenster
>> Weselerstr. 253
>> D-48151 Muenster
>> kuhn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de/~kuhn
>> Vespucci Summer Institutes: http://www.vespucci.org
>>
>> On Wednesday, 11. January 2012 at 16:20, Galton, Antony wrote:
>>
>> Stefano and Claudio,
>>
>> I agree with Leo's comments. Regarding the issue that Fabian
>> highlighted, on the ratio of lectures to practical work, I still think
>> that more hands-on experience would be good, but on the other hand this
>> would mean that less material can be covered at the theoretical level.
>> Perhaps this needs to be settled in negotiation with whoever eventually
>> agrees to give the lectures - again as suggested by Leo. The list of
>> topics looks good.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Antony
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo
>> J.
>> Sent: 11 January 2012 14:09
>> To: IAOA Education Committee
>> Cc: masolo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] IAOA summer school: courses and lecturers
>> (proposal)
>>
>> Stefano and Masolo,
>>
>> Thanks once again for the proposal. Apologies for my delay in
>> responding. It looks very good to me. I concur with Fabian that the
>> proposed speakers are no doubt experts. As possible backup for the
>> Ontology in semantics and cognitive linguistic slot, I might suggest
>> James Pustejovsky or even Hans Kamp.
>>
>> To underscore Fabian's and Antony's original suggestion, one might ask
>> the speakers to consider some problem the students might work on in a
>> hands-on, working session to apply the lessons the students have learned
>> in the lecture.
>>
>> I do think the announcement should go out very soon, so please finalize
>> your description, as modified, if you decide you agree, on any comments
>> you receive.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:iaoa-education-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefano
>> Borgo
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 6:48 AM
>> To: IAOA education
>> Cc: masolo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-education] IAOA summer school: courses and lecturers
>> (proposal)
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm sorry but I must insist for some reaction (thank you Fabian for your
>> comments)
>>
>> If we do not hear from you by the end of this week, Claudio and I will
>> assume that you are overwhelmed with happiness for the proposal and thus
>> we will start contacting people for the school.
>> Your only chance to stop this causal chain is to start a (possibly
>> constructive) discussion...
>> :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> -Stefano and Claudio
>>
>>
>> On 1/7/12, Stefano Borgo <stefano.borgo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Education Committee,
>>
>> we are collecting information to estimate the figures and prepare the
>> school budget.
>> In the meanwhile, we have made some progress about the structure of
>> the school.
>>
>> Pls, react quickly and, if you do not like something, suggest
>> improvements o propose an alternative.
>> In particular, we must be able to contact people quickly.
>> Ideally, we should send out emails to the lecturers by mid of January.
>>
>> Our plan is to have an introduction day to help the students to
>> understand the general domain, and then regular courses for the rest
>> of the week. Below you can find courses and proposed lecturers.
>>
>> All this is indicative, so feel free to suggest change of topic/title.
>> Most importantly, the quality of the lecturers is crucial. We would
>> like the lecturers to interact with the students and with each other.
>> They should follow the other courses, be open-minded and ready to pick
>> up from their perspective issues risen during the week.
>> The people proposed below are ok (we think) but you might know someone
>> else that fits better.
>> Also, we plan to individuate some example or topic and ask lecturers
>> to work them out from their perspective/domain. This activity will
>> serve as a way to integrate the different views and approaches.
>> Of course, the attitude of the lecturers is important here so it would
>> be great if, when suggesting someone, you have direct experience on
>> how they teach and how the interact with the audience.
>>
>> No need to say that we need to keep expenses low. We plan to take
>> advantage of local experts at least in the area of knowledge
>> representation (see course "Formalizing ontological knowledge")
>>
>> Finally, in our mind students should have some knowledge of FOL as
>> prerequisite.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stefano and Claudio
>>
>>
>> Title of the school:
>> IAOA Summer School on Ontological Analysis
>>
>> **DAY 1
>> -- 0.5h Introduction to IAOA + Introduction to the IAOA summer school
>> Lecturers:
>> Nicola Guarino, Claudio and Stefano
>>
>> -- 3h, Review of FOL (as knowledge representation language suitable
>> for
>> ontology)
>> Lecturers (two options):
>> Luciano Serafini and Chiara Ghidini (Italy) Enrico Franconi (Italy)
>>
>> Lunch (1.5hr)
>>
>> -- 3h, Introduction to ontological analysis (what is an ontology,
>> etc.) Lecturers (two options):
>> Nicola Guarino (Italy)
>> John Sowa (USA)
>>
>>
>>
>> **DAY 2 to 5
>> -- 1.5h, Ontological analysis: philosophical perspective Lecturers
>> (three options):
>> Achille Varzi (USA)
>> Thedore Sider (USA)
>> Kevin Mulligan (Switzerland)
>>
>> Break (30 min)
>>
>> -- 1.5h, Ontology in semantics and cognitive linguistic Lecturers (two
>> options):
>> Barbara Partee (USA)
>> Leonard Talmy (USA)
>>
>> Lunch (1.5hr)
>>
>> -- 1.5h, Formalizing ontological knowledge [basically, formal
>> languages/techniques for ontology] Lecturers (two options):
>> Luciano Serafini and Chiara Ghidini (Italy) Enrico Franconi (Italy)
>>
>> Break (30 min)
>>
>> -- 1.5h, Ontology application and database Lecturers (two options):
>> Bill Andersen (USA)
>> Chris Welty (USA)
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