Conference Call 2003-06-26

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-06-26    (6U0)

Conference Call Details    (6U1)

• Subject: [ubl-ontology] project conference call Thu 2003-06-26    (6U2)
• Comments/Agenda:    (6U3)
  •    (6U4)
    • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (6U5)
  • Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (6U6)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (6U7)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc3.cim3.net:5800/    (6U8)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (6U9)
    • view-and-control pw: "ontology"    (6UA)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-06-26    (6UB)
• Date: Thursday, Jun 26, 2003    (6UC)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6UD)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6UE)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (6UF)
• Participant Access Code: "030626"    (6UG)

Attendees    (6UH)

• Attended:    (6UI)
  • PeterYim    (6UJ)
  • KurtConrad    (6UK)
  • BillMcCarthy    (6UL)
  • MonicaMartin    (6UM)
  • FarrukhNajmi (joined at around 11:00am PDT)    (6UN)

• was also expecting:    (6UO)
  • SueProbert    (6UP)
  • DuaneNickull (can only join at around 11:00am PDT)    (6UQ)

• Regrets:    (6UR)
  • BobSmith    (6US)

Agenda Ideas    (6UT)

• reviving interest in the ubl-onotlogy work    (6UU)

Agenda & Proceedings    (6UV)

1) Welcome    (6UW)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (6UX)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (6UY)

• PeterYim volunteered to take minutes.    (6UZ)

3) Roll-call of participants    (6V0)

• see above Attendees section.    (6V1)

4) Communication logistics & work protocols    (6V2)

• a. Falling-off of participation    (6V3)

•    (6V4)
  • possible causes:    (6V5)
    • summer    (6V6)
    • BillMcCarthy had two standards group deliverables he had to attend to because of hard deadlines    (6V7)
    • Lack of a "central" work piece -- which is the ubl-ontology that we need to be working on.    (6V8)

•    (6V9)
  • possible remedies:    (6VA)
    • would a face-to-face meeting which makes hard deadlines do the trick?    (6VB)
    • upcoming UBL and UN/CEFACT meeting dates discussed. BillMcCarthy says he's planning to be at the Seoul UN/FACT meeting.    (6VC)
    • The UBL agenda was also discussed. We (ontolog) might want to find out how we can be more in sync with the UBL activities.    (6VD)
    • revive the work AdamPease has started, so that the rest of the community can use that as a focal point for continued discussion.    (6VE)

• It is strongly recommended that people respond to the FreeConference invitation with their RSVPs, so that we can plan our agenda better.    (6VF)

• b. Announcing http://vnc4.cim3.net:5800    (6VG)
  • this server will be able to host a lot more people (large meeting, seminars)    (6VH)
  • can support people who are behind firewalls (prior arrangements and client software necessary)    (6VI)
    • MonicaMartin and PeterYim will try to test it out (with the Sun's firewall in place).    (6VJ)

• c. Tools registry    (6VK)
  • PeterYim provided some context on the "registry" discussion.    (6VL)
  • FarrukhNajmi introduced the open sourced ebXML RR work and their desire to align with the Semantic Web activities    (6VM)
    • v2.5 (effective v3.0) is good for taxonomies;    (6VN)
    • future v4.0 should be better designed for ontologies; work on this is starting short    (6VO)
    • Farrukh invites people from the ontolog community to collaborate and participate in this work    (6VP)
    • suggestion: start with v2.5's generic content management capabilities, and, in parallel collaborate with ebxml rr to make v4.0 the suitable registry for our purpose.    (6VQ)
    • Farruhk's take: the crux of the matter is to answer "what implications will there be on the current registry information model for it to align with semantic content management?"    (6VR)
    • Farruhk will post a presentation he is working on to give us a better overview on some of his thinkings.    (6VS)

5) Future tutorials    (6VT)

• repeat of the AdamPease tutorial    (6VU)
  • MonicaMartin and BillMcCarthy both want to see the repeat done.    (6VV)
  • BillMcCarthy will rekindle the thread to see if we can get critical mass in terms of interest to get AdamPease to do the tutorial again.    (6VW)

• Follow-on tutorial    (6VX)
  • KurtConrad and PeterYim will discuss that with AdamPease when they meet early July (which they are planning to do.)    (6VY)

6) Status on use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (6VZ)

• a. PO / Invoice reconciliation (BillMcCarthy / MikeDaconta?)    (6W0)
• b. Address structure (SueProbert / PeterYim)    (6W1)
• c. Mapping to other representations (JohnYunker / PeterYim / SueProbert)    (6W2)

 discussion of this item postponed.    (6W3)

7) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models    (6W4)

• a. Invoice (AdamPease)    (6W5)
• b. PO (BillMcCarthy)    (6W6)
• c. Shipping (JohnYunker)    (6W7)

 discussion of this item postponed.    (6W8)

8) Possible face-to-face meeting    (6W9)

• a. Sep-2003    (6WA)
• b. Mar. 22-24, 2004 (alongside AAAI symposium at Stanford)    (6WB)

 discussion of this item postponed.    (6WC)

9) Sponsorship and funding    (6WD)

 discussion of this item postponed.    (6WE)

10) Other business    (6WF)

 none.    (6WG)

11) Next meeting date and adjourn    (6WH)

• the next conference call (2003-07-03) will be at the same time next week. See details at http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Tutorial_2003-07-03    (6WI)
• meeting adjourned 2003-06-26_11:55am PDT    (6WJ)

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 Minutes taken by PeterYim on the wiki in real time
 ppy / 2003-06-26_11:59 PDT    (6WK)