UpperOntologySummit/OrganizingCommitteeMeeting 2006 03 25

UpperOntologySummit - Organizing Committee Conference Call 2006-03-25    (LXX)

Call Details    (LXY)

• Date: Saturday, Mar. 25, 2006    (LXZ)
• Start Time: 7:00 AM PST / 10:00 AM EST / 15:00 UTC (World Clock)    (LY0)
• Expected Call Duration: 1.5 hour    (LY1)
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)    (LY2)
• Participant Access Code: "68656#"    (LY3)

Attendees    (LY4)

• Attended:    (LY5)
  • SteveRay (Chair)    (LY8)
  • PeterYim    (LY9)
  • LeoObrst    (LYB)
  • DagobertSoergel    (LYC)
  • PatCassidy    (LYA)

• Expecting:    (LY6)

• Regrets:    (LY7)

Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)    (LYD)

• UOS postmortem    (LYE)
• What next?    (LYF)
• a joint presence at FOIS-2006? - International Conference on Formal Ontology in Information Systems    (LYG)
  • November 9-11, 2006 - Baltimore, Maryland, USA    (LYH)
  • see: http://www.formalontology.org/fois-2006/FOIS-2006%20Call%20for%20Papers.htm/    (LYI)
• a joint presence at OIS2006 - 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards    (LYJ)
  • November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)    (LYK)
  • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/    (LYL)
• ...(please add suggested items here)...    (LYM)

Agenda & Proceedings    (LYN)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (LYO)

• SteveRay took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (LYP)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (LYQ)

• PeterYim volunteered to take minutes    (LYR)

3) Roll-call of participants - see above    (LYS)

4) Urgent matters to be attended to    (LYT)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (LYU)

• recording and transcripts    (LYV)
  • segment-2 of the main UOS meeting (2006.03.15 afternoon) already posted - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummitMeeting_2006_03_15#nidLXO    (LZP)
  • segment-1 could have been corrupted due to some technical issues with the new equipment (now still try to salvage)    (LZQ)
  • the taping of the other two meetings (2006.03.14 & 2006.03.15 morning) probably not complete    (LZR)
  • phone line also got dropped when someone kicked the polycomm power adapter off the wall    (LZS)

• Lessons learned    (LZT)
  • someone should be monitoring the dial-in call    (LZU)
  • we should provide a cell-phone number for people to call, in case anything happened with the dial-in    (LZV)

• hold-off on doing transcript until we have all the recordings in (we'll decide then, if it is worth the effort and cost.)    (LZW)

• we discussed some of the logistics related issues    (LZX)
  • venue    (LZY)
  • registration    (LZZ)
  • refreshments    (M00)

6) Follow-up from previous meetings    (LYW)

7) Status review and ongoing discussions    (LYX)

• UOS postmortem    (LYY)
  • what went well    (LYZ)
    • Pat / Peter: the whole series of meetings went real well (which took us, like 80% of the way even before we met in person)    (M01)
    • the mailing list discussion prior to the meeting was really help    (M02)
    • lots of credit should go to Doug    (M03)
    • the collaborative authoring, while tedious, was worth it -- ownership, a deliverable, a stake in the ground, of historical significance, ...    (M04)
  • what needs improvement    (LZ0)
    • some of the logistics issues described earlier    (M05)
  • how would we do it differently next time    (LZ1)
    • following-up:    (M06)
      • Steve: ongoing discussion in a collaborative work environment    (M07)
    • e-mail discussion can be improved    (M08)
      • discipline, metadata, topic-specific-threading    (M09)
      • augmented by a wiki page    (M0A)

• press coverage of the event    (M13)
  • So far, the only article explicitly mentioning upper ontologies is this NIST Techbeat article. Our public affairs folks are sending out a more focused packet to the media targetted on the Upper Ontology Summit this coming week.    (M14)
  • There are some other articles covering Interoperability Week, but none of them picked up the ontology aspect.    (M15)

• what next?    (LZ2)
  • update to version 1.02 of /UosJointCommunique to include added endorsements (~3/31/06)    (LZ3)
  • do we really want a next iteration of the Joint Communique?    (LZ4)
    • Pat: maybe one shot (to make it flow better)    (M0H)
    • Steve / Leo / Peter: let's leave the historical artifact (for the UOS event it is associated with) aside ... whatever addition goes into a different document    (M0I)
      • Steve: we should be aware that there is always the view of some people that this is a group of academics that only talks    (M0J)
      • Dagobert: suggestion - the first page of the white paper could be your "improved version" (Pat: good idea!)    (M0O)
  • institutionalizing the continuing effort    (LZ5)
    • in what organizational form?    (LZ6)
      • moving this into Ontolog and to engage the larger ontolog community    (M0V)
  • follow-ups relating to funding    (LZ7)
    • NSF joint activities?    (LZ8)
  • follow-ups relating to standradization    (LZ9)
    • NIST, ISO, OASIS, IEEE ... collaboration?    (LZA)
  • getting to work on the intended interrelated UO deliverable    (LZB)
  • SICoP working relationship    (LZL)

•    (M0K)
  • Technical    (M0L)
    • Ontolog community can frame some of the issues, and bring the discussion to a point that could move it toward standardization    (M0P)
    • IKRIS: aligning PSL with Cyc - reach out to JerryHobbs and whoever else is on the content    (M0W)

•    (M0M)
  • Convener role of Ontolog    (M0N)
    • NCOR can define the directions, definitions, glossaries, maintain the quality, ...    (M0Q)
    • NIST: methodology, quality control, testing, ...    (M0R)
    • the IEEE, ISO, ... will have to be developing the standards    (M0S)
    • Ontolog can be where people can plug into    (M0T)
      • Steve: possibility that Ontolog can host the registry, with NCOR doing the certification of the content    (M0U)

• other discussions    (M0F)
  • Pat: Doug mentioned something like: it will be one man-year to express all of DOLCE in Cyc    (M0G)
  • putting up a glossary    (M0B)
    • Leo: NCOR is also planning on something like that    (M0C)
    • Steve: maybe we'll put "upper ontology" into wikipedia    (M0D)
    • Pat: I'd like to start the page on "semantic interoperability" into wikipedia, there is no such page yet    (M0E)

8) New Issues discussed:    (LZC)

• Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards    (LZD)
  • November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)    (LZE)
  • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/    (LZF)
• also (conflicting calendar):    (M0X)
  • FOIS-2006 (Nov. 9~11, 2006 Baltimore, MD)    (M0Y)
  • International Semantic Web Conferece (Athens, Georgia) - same week    (M0Z)
  • Leo: a Rules conference around that time too.    (M10)

9) Action Items    (LZG)

• Leo will start a conversation on the [uos-convene] list to start a project and focus effort on "the whitepaper."    (M11)

10) Next meeting date and adjournment    (LZH)

• Next meeting?    (LZI)
  • move this into Ontolog - therefore, this conversation will continue at the next Ontolog call Thu 2006.03.30 10:30am PST / 1:30pm EST    (M12)

• call adjourned 8:23 pm PST / 11:23 pm EST    (LZJ)

 --
 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2006.03.25-8:26am PST    (LZK)