NhinRfi/ConferenceCall 2005 01 11

[ontolog] NHIN-RFI Project Team Conference Call - Tue 2005-01-11    (9BK)

NHIN-RFI Project Conference Call Details    (9BL)

• Subject: [ontolog] NHIN-RFI Project Team Conference Call - Tue 2005-01-11    (9BM)

• Agenda:    (9BN)
  • this call will be devoted to coordinating our putting together a response to the NHIN-RFI and be able to submit that before the Jan. 18, 2005 deadline    (9BO)
  • Identify, distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (9BP)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (9BQ)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_01_11    (9BR)
  • Our dedicated Wiki Page is http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi    (9BS)
• Date: Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2005    (9BT)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST World Clock    (9BU)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (9BV)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (9BW)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (9BX)

Attendees    (9BY)

• Attended:    (9BZ)
  • BobSmith    (9C0)
  • PeterYim    (9C1)
  • PaulKoch    (9C2)
  • KurtConrad    (9C3)
  • AdamPease    (9C4)
  • BrandNiemann    (9C5)
  • ChrisRichardson    (9C6)

• Expecting:    (9C7)
  • MarkMusen    (9C8)
  • ChristopherChute    (9C9)

• Regrets:    (9CA)
  • NicolasRouquette (Schedule conflict - POPL 2005 conference/workshops)    (9CB)
  • MichaelHogarth    (9CC)

Agenda Ideas    (9CD)

Resources    (9CE)

• NHIN-RFI Project Home Page - see: NhinRfi    (9CF)
• Key Tenets of our Proposition - see: NhinRfiThesis    (9CG)
• Discussion Archive - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/health-ont/    (9CH)
• Records of earlier meetings - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi#nid0103    (9CI)

Agenda & Proceedings    (9CJ)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (9CK)

• BobSmith took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (9CL)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (9CM)

• PeterYim volunteered    (9CN)

3) Roll-call of participants    (9CO)

• see above    (9CP)

4) NHIN-RFI project work    (9CQ)

• refer to Bob's outline at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi#nid0224    (9CR)

• Bob start by questioning "what is our objective for today and for this response exercise"?    (9CS)
  • Adam: we should put forth our best recommendation, and if we cannot conclude, we should methodically come to that best recommendation would be.    (9CT)
  • Paul: concurs with the general effort to provide recommendation to the government; noting, though, Kevric may not be be in a position    (9CU)
  • Kurt: potential issue - if one is hired to evaluate a recommendation, one may be inhibited to bid on the same proposal    (9CV)
    • Adam believes we have no conflict here (because we are not hired)    (9CW)
  • Peter: for today, we should keep the focus we make sure we have something to deliver by 1/18; and my take on the overall goal is that we should only use this round to put a foot into the door.    (9CX)
    • Peter: this is an RFI (and not an RFP), and the fact that we are representating an ontological approach, we should only state concepts and not products or labels.    (9CY)
  • Bob: we can take the opportunity to demonstrate applied ontology to policy argument, such as using ontologies to help analyse inputs to the RHIN-RFI    (9CZ)
    • Adam: we should be proposing the use of ontologies for the information exchange, and not ontologies as applied to helping policy decisions    (9D0)
    • Bob: that evidently divides the approach between the hard technical applications (of formal ontologies) and the softer social, policy type applications (of semi-formal and informal ontologies).    (9D1)

• options on the wording of the NHIN-RFI thesis reviewed: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfiThesis#nid040    (9D2)
  • a ballot:    (9D3)
    • for option-1: AdamPease,    (9D4)
    • for option-2: PeterYim, BrandNiemann, BobSmith    (9D5)
    • abstain: PaulKoch, KurtConrad    (9D6)
    • therefore, option-2 is adopted.    (9D7)
  • 2 more additions were also adopted: see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfiThesis#nid086    (9D8)

• the meeting agreed that the ontolog response will be a parallel and friendly effort which WorldVistA may also put forth as a response to the NHIN-RFI    (9D9)

• Chris: make sure we have clinical expertise on hand, otherwise our recommendations will not be credible.    (9DA)
  • Peter: we do have highly respectable player on our team, thanks for reminding us; this is important.    (9DB)

• Brand:    (9DC)
  • compliments to this effort, especially the CoP aspect.    (9DD)
    • recommending a Harvard study on CoP for Government. See: Government Communities of Practice: A New Tool for Government Managers from the Center for the Business of Government.    (9DE)
  • replaying MarkMusen's presentation to "Architecture Plus" next week (see: details at http://web-services.gov under upcoming meetings)    (9DF)
  • fyi ... Dr. Brailer has also inherited the Federal Health Architecture mandate in HHS    (9DG)
  • the challenge is for Ontolog to properly communicate our position to non-ontologist "enterprise architects".    (9DH)
  • also recommended:    (9DI)
    • Kathy Lesh's (Kevric) 2004.12.09 presentation at the Exppedition Workshop.    (9DJ)
    • Presentation from Professor Asuman Dogac at the same workshop (and those listed on her site too) on some of the work being carried out in Europe    (9DK)

•    (9DL)
  • Chris asked whether everyone is aware of the cut of Dr. Brailer's budget    (9DM)
    • Brand: yes ... but we are optimistic.    (9DN)

5) Other business    (9DO)

6) Next meeting date and adjourn    (9DP)

• call adjourned 11:56am PST    (9DQ)
• next call will be on Thu 2005.01.13 starting at 10:30am PST    (9DR)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim
 ppy / 2005.01.11 11:58 PST    (9DS)