Conference Call 2003-12-18

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-12-18    (87B)

Conference Call Details    (87C)

• Subject: [UblOntology] project conference call Thu 2003-12-18    (87D)
• Comments/Agenda:    (87E)
  • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (87F)
  • Please post your suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (87G)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (87H)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (87I)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (87J)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (87K)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-12-18    (87L)
• Date: Thursday, Dec. 18, 2003    (87M)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time    (87N)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Standard Time    (87O)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (87P)
• Participant Access Code: "031218#"    (87Q)

Attendees    (87R)

• Attended:    (87S)
  • PeterYim    (87T)
  • PatCassidy    (87U)
  • KurtConrad    (87V)
  • BobSmith    (87W)
  • BoNewman    (87X)
  • CeceliaHickel    (87Y)
  • BillMcCarthy    (87Z)

• Expecting:    (880)

• Regrets:    (881)
  • MonicaMartin    (882)
  • AdamPease    (883)

Agenda Ideas    (884)

• Upcoming agenda    (885)
  • Leo's talk (2004.01.15); NIST Steve's Talk (Feb-2004); ...    (886)

Agenda & Proceedings    (887)

1) Welcome    (888)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone    (889)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (88A)

• PeterYim volunteered    (88B)

3) Roll-call of participants    (88C)

• see above    (88D)

4) Follow-on from November face-to-face meeting http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologWorkshop_Nov_2003    (88E)

• PatCassidy's update    (88F)
  • the import from KIF to Protege is essentially complete -- work-in-progress accessible    (88G)
  • awaiting feedback - Pat will make a post to the forum to solicit that    (88H)
  • seeking interest from the group before proceeding with export    (88I)
  • without funding only very limited time is available -- busy with paid projects    (88J)
    • Resource requriements (for Pat) --    (88K)
      • SUMO-KIF: 2-months & $10K;    (88L)
      • Additional bells-and-whistles (header, extensions): add 1-month & $5K;    (88M)
      • Importing UBL (from the spreadsheet source, xsd or UML): at a minimum -- 1.5 months with 1-2 weeks of consultation with someone who has deep UBL knowledge (like TimMcGrath)    (88N)
  • to answer Kurt's question about learning curve towards doing something useful on Protege - Pat suggested: 1~2 days if you have someone knowledgeable helping, and 1~2 weeks if you don't (and just depend on Protege's discussion forum for the support)    (88O)

•    (88P)
  • PeterYim suggested we program "events" into our regular Thursday call schedules, like:    (88Q)
    • a talk from someone (outside?) once a month, and    (88R)
    • an internal event (workshop, tutorial, planning session ...) also once a month;    (88S)
    • alternating between regular sync-up calls and these "events".    (88T)

• Planning exercise    (88U)
  • let's schedule that for 2004.01.08    (88V)
  • Kurt, Bob, Peter, Kurt, Bo, Bill (at least partial, but yes), Pat, Cecelia (will listen in) -- all confirmed OK to this date    (88W)

• Bo suggested a future discussion and need for testbed application for the UBL-ontology exercise.    (88X)

• Bill was at the UN/CEFACT meeting in Austria last week    (88Y)
  • had a big meeting betwen Core Components and Business Process    (88Z)
  • UBAC wokshop at Stockholm before that    (890)
  • can schedule a session to let members know what's going on in those areas    (891)
  • Bill will like to see ontolog keeping the impartial top-down view    (892)
  • Bill is also editor of the OpenEDI ontology working group (15944-4)    (893)

• Schedule follow-on events    (894)
  • Leo's presentation -- scheduled for 2004.01.15 during our regular call session -- Kurt will post an announcement on the forum    (895)
  • Review of Pat's SUMO / Protege work    (896)
  • Presentation from Steve Ray, Head of the MSID Division of NIST -- to be scheduled in Feb-2004    (897)
  • ebXML Core Components (BillMcCarthy suggested: JohnYunker and possibly with SueProbert)    (898)
  • Presenation from eGov SBIR representative -- PeterYim will work on this    (899)

• Follow-up TO DOs    (89A)
  • Adam -- Ontology tutorial powerpoint file; formalization tutorial SUO-KIF codes    (89B)
  • Bill -- Send picture of co-presenters (Elmo and Cookie Monster) to Peter -- Bill: done now, will mail out    (89C)
  • Pat -- Updated Protege version of SUMO ontology and Peter posted it    (89D)

  discussion of the above postponed    (89E)

5) Communication logistics & work protocols    (89F)

  discussion of the above postponed    (89G)

6) Use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (89H)

  discussion of the above postponed    (89I)

7) Formalization issues    (89J)

• How to continue from Adam's workshop at face-to-face?    (89K)

  discussion of the above postponed    (89L)

8) Sponsorship and funding    (89M)

• PeterYim wants to take the opportunity of his Washington DC trip in Jan-2004 to advance this for the ontolog work. Will talk about this more in January.    (89N)

9) Other business    (89O)

• MikeDaconta wrote and advised that he will be representing his company at W3C. This commitment may reduce the time he can spend on direct work here, but he will be around.    (89P)
• we're taking a break for two weeks ... Happy Holidays to everyone.    (89Q)

10) Next meeting date and adjourn    (89R)

• next call: Thu 2004.01.08 10:30am - 11:30am PST    (89S)