Conference Call 2003-07-31

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-07-31    (74D)

Conference Call Details    (74E)

• Subject: [ubl-ontology] project conference call Thu 2003-07-31    (74F)
• Comments/Agenda:    (74G)
  •    (74H)
    • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (74I)
  • Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (74J)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (74K)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (74L)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (74M)
    • view-and-control pw: to be advised during the call as necessary    (74N)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-07-31    (74O)
• Date: Thursday, July 31, 2003    (74P)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (74Q)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (74R)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (74S)
• Participant Access Code: "030731#"    (74T)

Attendees    (74U)

• Attendees:    (74V)
  • AdamPease    (74W)
  • JohnYunker    (74X)
  • PeterYim    (74Y)
  • KurtConrad    (74Z)
  • BoNewman    (750)
  • MikeDaconta    (751)
  • PatCassidy    (752)
  • MonicaMartin    (753)

• Regrets:    (754)
  • TimMcGrath (at UBL Montreal meeting)    (755)

Agenda Ideas    (756)

Agenda & Proceedings    (757)

1) Welcome    (758)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone    (759)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (75A)

• PeterYim volunteered    (75B)

3) Roll-call of participants    (75C)

• see above    (75D)

4) Communication logistics & work protocols    (75E)

•    (75G)
  • AdamPease: SUMO is stored as a text (flat) file in KIF    (75H)
  • Adam Suggests to download Michael Sevcenko's SUO-KIF ontology browser    (75I)
  • PeterYim will download and try to make this available:    (75J)
    • as a web service (they are cgi's) so everyone can use it    (75K)
    • also make available for use on a vnc machine    (75L)

5) Status on use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (75M)

•    (75O)
  • further discussion/debate pertaining to whether LineItemID needs to be captured in the ontology was made    (75P)
    • Adam sees this as being an implementation issue    (75Q)
    • the group agreed to capture it anyway (will someone summarize the arguments on the discussion forum, please)    (75R)
    • Adam further clarifies that the consensus was that implementation issues such as ID numbers, would be captured in separate documents that relate the structure of a legacy model to the ontology and vice versa. (see post)    (75S)

•    (75U)
  • KurtConrad suggested we look at making use of it. An article can be found at: infotoday.com    (75V)

6) Formalization activities    (75W)

•    (762)
  • discussion on the above items ( a thru e ) were not made (we did not get around to it.)    (763)

•    (765)
  • Adam helped clarify "full logical representation" ontology versus a "frame" ontology    (766)

•    (767)
  • JohnYunker told us that he is also working on a Order / Invoice relationship exercise    (768)
  • one can create a mapping slot on protege    (769)

•    (76A)
  • AdamPease wanted the group to confirm adoption of what is now recorded consensus that "full first order logic representation" in KIF is the representation of choice for our work.    (76B)

•    (76C)
  • PatCassidy purports that we can still have a compatible Maybe less expressive) representation in Protege    (76D)

•    (76E)
  • MikeDaconta suggested we start a wiki page to thrash this out - logic representation vs frame in general, and KIF vs protege in particular, for our work in particular    (76F)
    • Adam will start the page    (76G)
      • Peter suggests we start off from http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Methodology    (76H)
      • sections on "Representations of Choice" and Tool of Choice" have been created. See http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Methodology#nid0103    (76I)
      • start on the new pages "OntologyRepresentation" and "ToolsOntology" as appropriate    (76J)

7) Workshop    (76K)

• workshop on tools and technology is put on hold for now    (76L)

8) Possible face-to-face meeting    (76M)

•    (76P)
  • discussion postponed    (76Q)

9) Sponsorship and funding    (76R)

• discussion postponed    (76S)

10) Other business    (76T)

• none (we actually ran out of time and never got this far.)    (76U)

11) Next meeting date and adjourn    (76V)

• Next meeting: same time next week Thu 2003-08-07 10:30am PDT    (76W)
• meeting adjourned at 11:37    (76X)

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 notes taken by PeterYim in real time on the wiki
 ppy / 2003-07-31_11:40am PDT    (76Y)