Conference Call 2003-05-22

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-05-22    (6O8)

Conference Call Details    (6O9)

• Subject: [ubl-ontology] project conference call    (6OA)
• Comments/Agenda:    (6OB)
  •    (6OC)
    • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (6OD)
  • Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (6OE)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (6OF)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc3.cim3.net:5800/    (6OG)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (6OH)
    • view-and-control pw: "ontology"    (6OI)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-05-22    (6OJ)
• Date: Thursday, May 22, 2003    (6OK)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6OL)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6OM)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (6ON)
• Participant Access Code: "030522"    (6OO)

Attendees    (6OP)

• Expecting:    (6OQ)
  • PeterYim    (6OR)
  • BobSmith    (6OS)
  • MonicaMartin    (6OT)
  • KurtConrad    (6OU)
  • BillMcCarthy    (6OV)
  • TimMcGrath    (6OW)

• Regrets:    (6OX)
  • AdamPease    (6OY)

Agenda Ideas    (6OZ)

Agenda & Proceedings    (6P0)

1) Welcome    (6P1)

•    (6P2)
  • KurtConrad took the chair    (6P3)
  • TimMcGrath was introduced to the group    (6P4)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (6P5)

•    (6P6)
  • PeterYim volunteered to take minutes of the meeting.    (6P7)

3) Roll-call of participants    (6P8)

•    (6P9)
  • see above.    (6PA)

4) TimMcGrath    (6PB)

• BillMcCarthy asked Tim where to find the example instances in the UBL 0p70 package    (6PE)
  • Tim: they are in the foler called "xml". They are intentionally small.    (6PF)

• Bill said with the old xCBL, they had some scenarios and examples. Wanted to know if there is an UBL equivalent.    (6PG)
  • Tim: see section 5 of the index document.    (6PH)
  • Tim: if you need to construct documents, you will need to go to the schemas under the "xsd" folder.    (6PI)
  • also check out the model under the folder labeled "uml"    (6PJ)

• Tim gave an overview of the status of UBL    (6PK)
  • latest release is UBL 0p70. Consider it a TC discussion paper, as it has no position in terms of an OASIS Standards yet.    (6PL)
  • UBL 0p80 is coming up in early June 2003, primarily for RosettaNet and eGov groups who are committed to do an intense review and comment on them (to align it with their work.)    (6PM)
  • In July 2003, after completion of the above review, an "OASIS Technical Spec" should be published (eta end July 2003; alongside the "hardening work of the UBL F2F meeting in Montreal, week of 7.28.03), which will be open for a 30-day public review and a 28-day voting period (by OASIS members), the affirmative conclusion of such will make it an OASIS Specification (UBL 1.0). Targeted for Oct. 20, 2003.    (6PN)
  • In Sep. 2003, UBL will merge into UN/CEFACT. Subsequent specification (say UBL 1.1, 1.2 etc.) will be released under UN/CEFACT.    (6PO)

• Opportunities for [ontolog] as Tim see it:    (6PP)
  • UBL needs now to identify a methodology to address customization and contextualization    (6PQ)
  • for example, in the "address" use case. (Tim: I'm trying to narrow down into specifics.)    (6PR)
  • hope [ontolog-forum] could provide guidance and methodological validation of the UBL work    (6PS)
    • Tim: at an abstract level UBL is (or should be) an ontology    (6PT)

• Kurt asked Tim where could one for for the deepers semantics (on top of the vocabulary and definitions)    (6PU)
  • Tim refered to section 5 of the index document again.    (6PV)

• Tim recognizes the work of the [ontolog-forum] and encourages the continued collaborative effort to bridge the two cultures (the ontologists and xml campers).    (6PW)

5) Introduction to Ontology / SUMO / Protégé tutorial (May 29th)    (6PX)

•    (6PZ)
  • PeterYim can digitize it afterwards (if need be, and no one else volunteers to do so).    (6Q0)

•    (6Q1)
  • Suggested that people start downloading and installing Protégé now and get issues out of the way before the tutorial session. We probably don't want to field those questions during the tutorial session.    (6Q2)

•    (6Q3)
  • Kurt also suggested that we try to reserve a bit more time (than the regular 1 hr. 25 min.) for the session, in case we need it.    (6Q4)

6) Communication logistics & work protocols    (6Q5)

•    (6Q7)
  • no update.    (6Q8)

7) Status on use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (6Q9)

• SueProbert / JohnYunker / TimMcGrath / PeterYim has a work session on the "Context Driven Address Formating" use case. See update from proceedings of that call at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCasesContextDrivenAddressFormat#nid0116    (6QD)

8) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models    (6QE)

•    (6QJ)
  • no update.    (6QK)

9) Sponsorship and funding    (6QL)

• no update    (6QM)

10) Other business    (6QN)

• none    (6QO)

11) Next meeting date and adjourn    (6QP)

• next week's call (2003-05-29) will be devoted to the tutorial. See details at http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Tutorial_2003-05-29    (6QQ)
• meeting adjourned 2003-05-22_11:17am PDT    (6QR)

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 Minutes taken by PeterYim on the wiki in real time
 ppy / 2003-05-22_11:22 PDT    (6QS)