Ontolog Forum OWL 2 (session-1) - Professor Ian Horrocks - Thu 2010.07.29 (2F4B)
- Topic: "OWL 2: The Next Generation" (2F7I)
- Presented by: Professor IanHorrocks (co-chair, W3C OWL 2 Working Group; University of Oxford) (2F7J)
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Conference Call Details (2F4C)
- Date: Thursday, 29-July-2010 (2F7Q)
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Attendees: (2F8O)
- Attendees (and registered attendees): (2F8P)
- IanHorrocks (2F8S)
- PeterYim (2F8T)
- LeoObrst (2FE9)
- BartGajderowicz (2FD9)
- ElizabethFlorescu (2FDU)
- ArturoSanchez (2FDV)
- JohnSinger (2FDW)
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- BruceAronow (2FED)
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- StavrosMacrakis (2FOS)
- Robert Hausam (OntoReason) (2FOT)
- AndreasHarth (2FP3)
- SteveRay (2FP9)
- BobbinTeegarden (2FTC)
- Renato Umeton (MIT) (2FTH)
- Beracah Yankama (MIT) (2FTI)
- Mazdak Nik Bakht (U of Toronto) (2FU9)
- JeffZhuk (2FUB)
- MaryParmelee (2FUN)
- Leon Yu (Thomson-Reuters) (2FUR)
- NancyWiegand (2FUS)
- Sylvere Krima (NIST) (2FUU)
- ZeynoAygen (2FUT)
- MatthewHettinger (2FUV)
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- JuanSequeda (2FUY)
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- EricChan (Oracle) (2FW8)
- MarciaZeng (2FW9)
- JimRhyne (2FWA)
- ToddSchneider (2FWB)
- DeborahMacPherson (2FWC)
- PavithraKenjige (2FWD)
- Michael Prietula (Emory University) (2FWG)
- Jeffrey Wallace (Intelligent Integration) (2FWR)
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- Rob McClure (Apelon) (2FX7)
- Ryan Hohimer (PNL) (2FX8)
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- TerryLongstreth (2FXA)
- TomRuss (2FXB)
- Tracy Safran (SAIC; NIH/NCI[C]) (2FXC)
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Agenda & Proceedings: (2F8Z)
- Session Format and Agenda: (2F90)
- this will be virtual session over a phone conference setting, augmented by in-session chat and shared computer screen support (2F91)
- The session will start with a brief self-introduction of the attendees (~15 min.) [We will be skipping this if there are more than 20 participants.] (2F92)
- Presentation by Professor IanHorrocks (~60 min.) (2F93)
- Q&A and Open discussion (~30 min.) [Kindly identify yourself before speaking.] (2F94)
- Topic: "OWL 2: The Next Generation" (2F95)
- Session Abstract: (2F96)
This is the first of two back-to-back sessions devoted to the "newly" adopted OWL 2 standard. In this session, Professor IanHorrocks (co-chair of the W3C OWL 2 Working Group) will focus on telling us what this Web Ontology Language (OWL) standard, adopted less than a year ago (27 Oct 2009 to be exact), is all about. Professor Horrocks will start by providing some background on OWL, then explains what is new in OWL 2. He will go on to explain how each of the three OWL 2 Profiles (OWL 2 EL, OWL 2 QL & OWL 2 RL) are defined, and what they are best suited for. Participants are welcome to come find out or discuss other aspects of OWL and OWL 2. We will have ample time for an open Q & A and general discussion after Professor Horrock's presentation on the OWL 2 standard. (2F97)
The second session of this mini-series, a panel discussion on "OWL 2: Tools and Applications," will be featured next week (same time next Thursday). Please make sure you come join us then. See details at: ConferenceCall_2010_08_05 (2F98)
References & Resources: (2F99)
- W3C OWL 2 Recommendation - http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/ (2F9A)
- proceedings of Professor Horrock's invited talk (from last week) - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_07_29 (2FWE)
- the 2nd session on this Ontolog OWL 2 mini-series, on "OWL 2: Tools and Applications" - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_08_05 (2F9B)
Transcript of the online chat during the session: (2F9C)
see raw transcript here. (2F9E)
(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit. (2F9F)
-- begin of chat session -- (2F9G)
PeterYim: . (2FXI)
Welcome to the Ontolog Forum OWL 2 (session-1) - Professor IanHorrocks - Thu 2010.07.29 (2FXJ)
* Topic: "OWL 2: The Next Generation" (2FXK)
* Presented by: Professor IanHorrocks (co-chair, W3C OWL 2 Working Group; University of Oxford) (2FXL)
Please refer to details on session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_07_22 (2FXM)
. (2FXN)
anonymous1 morphed into JulitaBermejoAlonso (2FXO)
anonymous2 morphed into Jie Zheng (2FXP)
PeterYim: will the "anonymous" participants please click on the "Settings" button (top center) and morph into your real name, so we can tell who you are, and properly attribute your contributions (2FXQ)
anonymous1 morphed into Rick Kiefer (2FXR)
anonymous1 morphed into Colin Courtney (2FXS)
anonymous2 morphed into Ricardo Clemente (2FXT)
anonymous morphed into Mikhail Soutchanski (2FXU)
anonymous11 morphed into JyotiPathak (2FXV)
IanHorrocks: The presentation will be (much) shorter this week, so there will be plenty of time for discussion. (2FXW)
Melanie Courtot1 morphed into Melanie Courtot (2FXX)
anonymous morphed into Cui Tao (2FXY)
Ian Horrocks morphed into IanHorrocks (2FXZ)
anonymous morphed into MattHettinger (2FY0)
Ryan_Hohimer morphed into Ryan Hohimer (2FY1)
anonymous2 morphed into TomRuss (2FY2)
anonymous morphed into Mike Hewett (2FY3)
anonymous1 morphed into AlanRector (2FY4)
Tracy Safran: Is the conference ID still Conference ID: "4389979#" ? It is giving me an invalid conference id message (2FY5)
Mike Hewett: Yes, that is the correct conference ID (2FY6)
Melanie Courtot: @Tracy - worked for me (2FY7)
anonymous morphed into BobbinTeegarden (2FY8)
DougFoxvog: I lost sound (2FY9)
IanHorrocks: Me too -- either that or everyone went very quiet (2FYA)
IanHorrocks: Peter -- unmute yourself! (2FYB)
PeterYim: can you hear me now? (2FYC)
LeoObrst: Peter: Everyone but Ian and I are muted: and no sounds except us! (2FYD)
IanHorrocks: No! (2FYE)
Rex Brooks: We can hear you Ian. (2FYF)
PeterYim: I can hear you, Ian ... I will advance the slides on your prompt (2FYG)
LeoObrst: Peter, I had disconnected, but at the time only Ian and I could hear each other. I'm assuming everyone can hear now. (2FYH)
anonymous morphed into Rob McClure (2FYI)
anonymous morphed into Trang (2FYJ)
michael riben morphed into Michael Riben (2FYK)
anonymous morphed into HIrankitti (2FYL)
ToddSchneider: Ian, can you provide some references to the research referred to in "Research has now shown how some restrictions can be overcome"? (2FYM)
PeterYim: for those who are not using your real names, kindly morph into your real name (WikiWord format preferred) so we can properly attribute your contributions ... try not to use initials, or just your first name or last name ... (2FYN)
PeterYim: we are holding off Q&A until *after* the presentation ... feel free to capture question on this chat board while the presentation is in progress (2FYO)
ToddSchneider: Ian, later could you explain the use of UML in the OWL 2 specification? (2FYP)
BrianHaugh: Does OWL2 support multi-media objects, such as audio, images, and video? (2FYQ)
Cui Tao: Can we define a new data type by referring or mapping it to a pre-defined data type such as an ISO data type? (2FYR)
BrianHaugh: How well do reasoners support reasoning with the content of annotations? (2FYS)
DougFoxvog: This treatment of "punning" would then prevent rules like "If ?SPECIES isa EndangeredSpecies & ?PREY isa ?SPECIES & ?HUNTER isa LicencedHunter and ?HUNTER kills ?PREY, then ..." (2FYT)
Cui Tao: Ian, could you refer us some examples of annotation of annotations? Is it some sort of reification? (2FYU)
AlanRector: Slide 15: Manchester Syntax error? "...that isPartOf CirculatorySystem" --> "...that isPartOf _some_ CirculatorySystem" (2FYV)
Cui Tao morphed into Cui Tao (2FYW)
DougFoxvog: An annotation of an annotation would include providing a timestamp and author of an annotation. (2FYX)
Cui Tao: Yes. I meant how that is done in OWL2. Is it through reinfication? (2FYY)
ToddSchneider: Ian, could you define 'saturation' in the context your using it? (2FYZ)
TomRuss: Are there any plans to add a standard query language to OWL? Especially one that allows for asking queries that return tuples rather than just single individuals. In other words, something that goes beyond DL Query. (2FZ0)
BrianHaugh: How is bi-directional RDF mapping supported for OWL 2 with assertion annotations, when RDF does not support assertion annotations? (2FZ1)
PeterYim: @Ian - since I don't have "voice", would you be kind enough to moderate the Q&A, please? (2FZ2)
PeterYim: ALL: please press the "hand button" (at lower right) and queue yourself up to make a remark (2FZ3)
PeterYim: ALL: note that questions captured on the chat should be looked at as "placeholders" ... please queue up to verbally discuss those questions or issues (2FZ4)
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JimRhyne: What's next for OWL? How will the recent meeting on RDF next steps influence OWL? (2FZ6)
DougFoxvog: Metareasoning exists & is performed in Cyc. (2FZ7)
JoelBender: (re: IanHorrocks' verbal response to my question for a reference on the reasoning technique that uses saturation of the axioms - the 2009 IJCAI paper by Yevgeny Kazakov of Oxford on Consequence-driven Reasoning) Ah! Found it! Thank you... http://code.google.com/p/cb-reasoner/ (2FZ8)
TerryLongstreth: @Joel- Thanks! (2FZ9)
Paul Hermans: Thank you (2FZA)
Mike Hewett: Very nice talk. (2FZB)
FrankChum: Thank you, Great talk! (2FZC)
PeterYim: Great presentation ... thank you VERY much, Professor Horrocks! (2FZD)
PeterYim: @ALL: we'll look forward to having all of you back here next weeks for the "OWL 2: Tools and Applications" panel session, see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_08_05 ... drop me a note (rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>) if you are coming and haven't registered yet, please. (2FZE)
PeterYim: @ALL: again, if what we do at ONTOLOG aligns well with your professional interest, join the community if you are not already a member of Ontolog - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J (2FZF)
PeterYim: bye, everyone ... .talk to you again next week! (2FZG)
LeoObrst: By, all! (2FZH)
PeterYim: -- session ended: 12:03pm PDT -- (2FZI)
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