Ontolog Planning Session - Thu 2008-08-28 (1KSV)
This is a continuation of the community planning session started in ConferenceCall_2008_08_21. Every one is welcomed to join, especially if you want to get involved and/or help shape the future of Ontolog and its events. You don't have to be an Ontolog veteran or have participated at the last session to come to this one. (1KSW)
Conference Call Details (1KSX)
- Subject: Ontolog Community Operations Planning & Review Session (1KSY)
- Facilitator: KurtConrad (1KSZ)
- Agenda: this session will be devoted to community planning, where the Ontolog CoP's "relevance", "direction", "upcoming events", "mini-programs" and "action plans" will be examined and put up for discussion. (1KT0)
- Date: Thursday, Aug. 28, 2008 (1KT1)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM BST / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 UTC (1KT2)
- see world clock for other time zones (1KT3)
- Expected Call Duration: ~1.5 hours (1KT4)
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- Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (1KTL)
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- Discussions and Q & A: (1KTP)
- (Unless the conference host has already muted everyone) Please mute your phone, by pressing "*2" on your phone keypad, when the talk is in progress. To un-mute, press "*3" (1KTQ)
- (when everyone is muted) If you want to speak or have questions or remarks to make, please "raise your hand (virtually)" by pressing "11" on your phone keypad. You may speak when acknowledged by the speaker or the session moderator. Test your voice and introduce yourself first before proceeding with your remarks, please. (1KTR)
- You can also type in your questions or comments through the browser based chat session by: (1KTS)
- pointing a separate browser tab (or window) to http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room and enter: Room="ontolog_20080828" and My Name="Your Own Name" (e.g. "JaneDoe") (1KTT)
- or point your browser to: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20080828 (1KTU)
- instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen. (1KTV)
- thanks to the soaphub.org folks, one can now use a jabber/xmpp client (e.g. gtalk) to join this chatroom. Just add the room as a buddy - (in our case here) ontolog_20080828@soaphub.org ... Handy for mobile devices! (1KTW)
- For those who cannot join us, or who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [ontology-forum] listserv so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse. (1KTX)
- Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: VirtualSpeakerSessionTips (1KTY)
- RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated. (1KTZ)
- This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_28 (1KU0)
- Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (1KU1)
Attendees (1KU2)
- Attended: (1KU3)
- Expecting: (1KU4)
- MikeBergman (1L50)
- (please add yourself to the list or rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>) (1KU7)
Agenda Ideas (1KU9)
- picking up from our 2008.08.21 Ontolog Planning session (1KUA)
- assess how we are doing in terms of "relevance" and "value to our membership"; future direction and action planning discussion (1KUB)
- plan events for the next two quarters and beyond (1KUC)
- review projects, series' and institutional collaborations (1KUD)
Resources (1KUE)
- an Inventory of Planned and Candidate Ontolog Events & Projects - ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore (1KUF)
- Our 2008 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2008_08_21 (1LME)
- Our 2006 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2006_10_05 (1KUG)
- Our 2005 Planning Session(s) proceedings - see: ConferenceCall_2005_03_03 & OntologPlanning_2005 (1KUH)
- Our 2004 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologPlanning_2004 (1KUI)
- Our 2003 Planning Session proceedings - see: OntologWorkshop_Nov_2003/AttendeeContribution (1KUJ)
Agenda & Proceedings (1KUK)
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda (1KUL)
- KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone. (1KUM)
- review and adopt agenda (1KUN)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (1KUO)
3) Roll-call of participants (1KUQ)
- process: explanation on how this session will be conducted (KurtConrad) (1KUS)
- Introductions (All) & everyone's expectations (on this session) (1KUT)
- KurtConrad: get back in touch with the community (1KUU)
- PeterYim: keep us relevant ... reality check (1KUV)
- DougHolmes: something concrete and show the rest of the world the "value of ontologies" ... OOR, Ontology Summit, ... (1KUW)
- KenBaclawski: scouting for research opprotunities ... OOR (1KUX)
- MikeBennett: glad to have found Ontolog ... help get the prorgam going (1KUY)
- MichelleRaymond: wonderful community and good work ... keep the community and the openness ... tie in standards organizations, collaborative expedition workshop (e.g. follow-up discussions of it) ... build a policy of bi-focating (for projects incubated by Ontolog) to both open and non-open stuff (1KUZ)
- BobSmith: ... wisdom (1KV0)
- HaroldSolbrig ... Mayo Clinic (1LAH)
- DuaneNickull ... Adobe (1LAI)
- MatthewWest ... now retired from Shell (1LAJ)
4) assess how we are doing in terms of "relevance" and "value to our membership"; future direction and action planning discussion (1KV1)
- Relevance (1KV2)
- Mike: Ontolog is doing a great job now ... (1KV3)
- Ken: a mini-series like "Database and Ontology" was great ... that format can help us attract and involve other communities (1KV4)
- Michelle: we're doing a lot of things right ... people are getting a lot out of the work ... OOR work, series works (DB, OKMDS, Measure & Quality, ...) were great ... do something that sounds a bit crazy that might become a reality down the road (1KV5)
- Doug: Ontolog is a very diverse community ... the virtual events have been great ... great presentations, but no discussion on the forum follows (1KV6)
- Peter: yes, very diverse ... almost disjoint activities and community segments (1KV7)
- Kurt: huge energy ... definitely sustainable ... almost difficult to define a focus (1KV8)
- Weakness & Improvements: (1KV9)
- Doug: things look fine ... will defer on this (1KVA)
- Mike: background program to help people assess (1KVB)
- Kurt: ... could be political (1KVC)
- Mike: tagging the content? (1KVD)
- Michelle: an "Ontolog dashboard"? ... RSS feed (1KVE)
- Peter: wiki "Recent Changes" are available as an RSS feed (1KVF)
- Kurt: digest (1KVG)
- Ken: student research projects (1KVH)
- we need tools to help navigate the rich body of knowledge ... but we do have smart data already (1KVI)
- migration toward purple semantic mediawiki ... the OOR effort will come into play, I'm sure (1KVJ)
5) plan events for the next two quarters and beyond (1KVK)
- see Inventory of Planned and Candidate Ontolog Events & Projects - ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore (1KVL)
- "Ontology Showcase" series - co-champion: KenBaclawski / MikeBennett (1KVM)
- ref. Emerging ontological work products showcases - let's do 2 per session, on 3~5 consecutive weeks - first one starting 9/18 or 9/25 (1KVN)
- [from discussion on 2008.08.28] given that we have yet to receive responses from some of those invited, and at least one (PatCassidy) has indicated interest but wanted to do this later, it is decided that: (1LAP)
- we will, for now, only run one session on Thu 2008.09.25 - with MartinHepp, MikeBergman & MikeBennett (1LAQ)
- we won't need to do the (originally planned) Thu 2008.09.04 planning and coordination meeting for this series any more, for the time being (1LAR)
- co-champions KenBaclawski and MikeBennett will take over from here, to organize the 9/25 session and continue to explore with with potential presenter via email (Ken & Mike, please keep LeoObrst, KurtConrad and PeterYim copied, at least, for overall coordination purposes) and forum dialog (1LAS)
- the Ontolog invited speaker series (1LBL)
- Peter to ping the speakers we've already invited previously (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore#nid1KPN ) and try to schedule them into the next couple of quarters if possible (1LBM)
- ALL: to nominate big name players in the domain who has done seminal work in the field to come share their insight with us. Will revisit this at the next call. (1LBN)
- MatthewWest will continue to explore running some sessions (not as many as before) on the "Database and Ontology" mini-series (1LAT)
- DuaneNickull and KurtConrad will plan for another "Ontology Implementation and Applications" panel session. Will lock in a date fairly soon, possibly Thu 2008.11.13 (1LAW)
- ref. 2008_11_13 - Thursday: Ontolog Operations Planning & Review - all active community members invited - ConferenceCall_2008_11_13 T (1LAX)
- A presentation series on OOR related topicss - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore#nid1KQ7 (1LAY)
- the OOR-team would be more focused on development and implementation; Ontolog can complement by continuing to host dialog and presentations on related topics of interest (1LAZ)
- will bring this up at the OOR meeting tomorrow (8/29) (1LB0)
- Michelle and possibly one more person can co-chair this (1LB1)
- A mini-series on "Semantic Wiki" (1LMF)
- ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore#nid1L14 (1LMG)
- PeterYim, HaroldSolbrig and LiDing will co-champion (1LMH)
- possibly doing a "planning session" on Thu 2008.09.18 (1LMI)
- possibility of a mini-series on "Reasoners and Theorem Provers" (1LMJ)
- ref. candidate content at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2008_08_21/WhatsInStore#nid1LAM (1LMK)
we got this far on the agenda last week ... will continue the discussion from about here at this session. (1KVU)
- "Ask the Experts" projecting - co-champion: KurtConrad / BobSmith / SvenVanPoucke(?) - discussion deferred to next week (1KVQ)
- Ken / Kurt suggested: start a page where people can ask questions (to ontology experts) (1KVR)
- when enough question accumulate and can be clustered, we can feature an "Ask the Experts" type session (which Sven proposed before) (1KVS)
- Bob / Ken / Mike: be aware that most people don't care about "ontology", or even if they do, they don't call it by that "O" word (1KVT)
- Scheduled Ontolog Events: (1KVV)
- Other upcoming events of interest - see: RelevantEventsOfInterest2008 (1KVW)
6) review projects, series' and institutional collaborations (1KVX)
7) Follow-up Activities & Action Plan: (1KVY)
8) Next meeting date and adjourn (1KVZ)
- We will continue this discussion next week: Thu 2008.09.04 - refer to details at the session page for ConferenceCall_2008_09_04 closer to the time (1KW1)
- this planning session adjourned 11:38 am PDT (1KW2)
-- proceedings captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2008.08.28-11:am PDT Attendees are requested to review the notes above, help clean it up, and make amendments and edits to better reflect the proceedings of the session as they see fit (particularly where they are personally involved). =ppy (1KW3)
Session Recording of this 2008.08.28 Ontolog Planning Session (1KW4)
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- Conference Date and Time: 28-Aug-2008 10:35am~11:38pm PDT (1KW9)
- Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 2 Minutes (1KWA)
- Recording File Size: 7.1 MB (in mp3 format) (1KWB)
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