Topic: Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge - Discussion Session 2 (NY6)
- Title: Tools, Techniques, and Approaches Panel (O0A)
- Moderator & Organizers: EMichaelMaximilien (NY7)
- Panelists: John 'Boz' Handy-Bosma (IBM Global Services), PeterMika (Free University, Amsterdam, Netherlands), Conor Shankey (Visual Knowledge) & W. Scott Spangler (IBM Research) (NY8)
Conference Call Details (NYA)
- Date: Thursday, July 6, 2006 (NYB)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC (see world clock for other time zones) (NYC)
- Duration: 2.0 hours (NYD)
- Dial-in Number: +1-641-696-6600 (Iowa, USA) (NYE)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (NYF)
- Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (NYG)
- view-only password: "ontolog" (NYH)
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- This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_07_06 (NYL)
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- Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (NYN)
Attendees (NYO)
- Attended: (NYP)
- Other registrants who may have joined us after the rollcall: (NYQ)
- DougMcDavid (O5J)
- PatrickDurusau (O5K)
- JackPark (O5L)
- JamesWerner (O5N)
- BillMcCarthy (O5P)
- SteveElse (O60)
- ......(to register for participation, please add your name and affiliation here or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> offline, so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)... (NYS)
- Regrets: (NYT)
- SteveIhnen (O5Q)
- JohnYoung (O5R)
- JonathanCheyer (O5S)
- RexBrooks (O5T)
- SteveRay (O5U)
- LisaColvin (meeting conflicts; will have to catch this on mp3) (O5V)
- MaryKeitelman (O5W)
- MatthewWest (O5X)
Background (NYU)
This is the second panel discussion event of the series of talks and discussions the revolves around the topic: "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge." With this series, the Ontolog community is making an attempt to explore the "what's" and "how's" to the development of a semantically interoperable application, using the improved access to the content of Ontolog as a case in point. (NYV)
The series is spurred by the Ontolog Community's quest toward: (NYW)
- (a) providing better access to the body of knowledge that the community has accumulated over the years, (NYX)
- (b) using the opportunity to explore the landscape and the state-of-the-art for both technologies and approaches, on how this could actually be done, (NYY)
- (c) employing the kinds of formal and informal semantic technologies and ontological engineering approaches that we've been 'talking about', (NYZ)
- (d) plan to develop an ontology-based application to achieve the purpose, both as a proof-of-concept, and also to provide open example of a 'working application' and 'the process' that people can look at, and (NZ0)
- (e) build up enough interest and momentum to really do it -- funded, if at all possible, but on an open/voluntary-basis, if we have to. (NZ1)
See OntologizingOntolog for more details regarding this series of activities (O58)
Agenda & Proceedings (NZ2)
- Dr. E. Michael Maximilien from the IBM Almaden Research Center will be moderating this discussion session (NZ3)
- Title: "Tools, Techniques, and Approaches Panel" (O0B)
- Abstract (by EMichaelMaximilien): (NZ5)
The ONTOLOG forum prides itself as a premier community of practice (CoP) for things related to knowledge representation and in particular ontologies and other formalized KR. While we have amassed a great deal of content in various formats (e.g., presentations, Wiki, text, pictures, podcast, and so on) the information is structured in free-form Wiki and not necessarily well categorized. Naturally, as we self-reflect a key question that often comes up is why arent we taking advantage of our knowledge to help improve the forums content and the site itself? (O5D)
To attempt to start addressing this question, we have engaged in a series of panels, invited talks, working sessions, and email discussions. These included general architectural considerations, discussions of use cases, problems, and approaches to address the problems that the above question entails. (O5E)
In this panel we want to investigate tools, techniques, and approaches that can help us in that task, but also that which may cover the rich spectrum of semantics that the ONTOLOG forum content covers. In particular we would look at: (O53)
- (O5F)
- (1) Tools to create formal and semi-formal knowledge representation (KR), e.g., OWL, Protégé, and so on (O54)
- (2) Tools and services to create free-form annotations of contents, e.g., deli.cio.us, Flykr, and others, resulting in folksonomies (O55)
- (3) Research, techniques, and tools (if any) to help make sense of resulting folksonomies and ontologies (O56)
- (4) Automated techniques, tools, and research approaches to mine structure in unstructured text such as the ONTOLOG Wiki, e.g., UIMA, podzinger.com for podcast to text translation, and others (O57)
- (5) Semantically-rich next generation collaborative platforms, e.g. semantic Wikis or other emerging web 2.0 tools (NZ6)
- Session Format: this is be a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (NZ9)
- 1. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (10~15 minutes) (NZA)
- 2. Introduction of Panelists (Moderator) (NZB)
- 3. Opening by the Moderator (10~15 min.) (NZC)
- 4. 5~7 minute brief by each panelist on their perspectives (NZD)
- 5. follow each panelist's presentation with a 3 minute Q&A and discussion on that particular perspective (NZE)
- 6. open general discussion by all participants (NZF)
- 7. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up (Moderator) (NZG)
- Moderator and Panelists' prepared slides or material (if there is any) can be accessed by pointing your web browsers to: (NZH)
- Slides to be presented during this session: (NZI)
- EMichaelMaximilien (moderator) - opening slides - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontologizing-ontolog-2_20060706/ontologizing-ontolog-panel2--Maximilien_20060706.ppt (NZJ)
- JohnHBosma - Faceted Logic - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontologizing-ontolog-2_20060706/Faceted-Logic--JohnHBosma_20060706.ppt (O6T)
- ConorShankey - Ontologizing the Ontolog Forum: Where do Semantic Wikis fit? - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontologizing-ontolog-2_20060706/ontologizing-ontolog--Shankey_20060706.ppt (O6S)
- ScottSpangler - eClassifier: Tool for Taxonomies - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontologizing-ontolog-2_20060706/eClassifier--WScottSpangler_20060706.ppt (O6Q)
- PeterMika - Semantic Technologies: a look at 'flink' & 'openacademia' - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontologizing-ontolog-2_20060706/SemanticTechnologies--PeterMika_20060706.ppt (O6R)
- Slides to be presented during this session: (NZI)
- Additonal Resources and References (NZK)
- from PeterMika: (O6C)
- the slides I used today are from a talk I gave on 28-Jun-2006 at the "Data webs: new visions for research data on the Web" workshop - see others' work at that workshop at: http://www.rin.ac.uk/data-webs (O6E)
- (please post any additional resources here) (NZL)
- Any material outside of the prepared presentation, if they are called up during the session, may be shared under the VNC session detailed above (NZM)
- from PeterMika: (O6C)
Questions, Answers & Discourse: (NZN)
- Some pertinent questions we may address today (initial set by EMichaelMaximilien): (O6F)
- Is automated taxonomy and categorization of unstructured text good enough? (O6G)
- What are best text mining techniques for wiki-based content? (O6H)
- What active or passive role do you see for users of the ONTOLOG forum to help better categorize content? (O6I)
- Importance of user ratings? Do we need more active users in order for ratings to reflect wisdom? (O6J)
- How can facetted-logic and -search help? (O6K)
- Role of ontological engineering tools? (O6L)
- Role and application of web 2.0 tools, services, and techniques? E.g., podzinger.com (O6M)
- If you want to speak or have questions for the panel, we appreciate your posting them as instructed below: (please identify yourself) (NZO)
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool (NZP)
- point a separate browser window (or tab) to http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room and enter: Room: "ontolog_20060706" & My Name: e.g. "JaneDoe" (NZQ)
- or simply at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20060706 (NZR)
- instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen. (NZS)
- For those who have further questions and discussion on this topic, please post them to the ontolog forum so that we can all benefit from the discourse. (NZV)
- Session ended 2006.07.06 12:31 pm PDT (NZW)
Session Recording of this Panel Discussion (NZX)
(Thanks to BobSmith and PeterYim for their help with getting the session recorded. =ppy) (NZY)
- To download the audio recording of the session, click here (O00)
- the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer. (O01)
- Conference Date and Time: June 6, 2006 10:42am~12:30pm Pacific Daylight Time (O02)
- Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 48 Minutes (O03)
- Recording File Size: 12.9 MB (in mp3 format) (O04)
- Telephone Playback Expiration Date: July 16, 2006 12:56 PM PDT (O05)
- Prior to the above Expiration Date, one can call-in and hear the telephone playback of the session. (O06)
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- Playback Access Code: 736951# (O08)
- suggestion: (O7Z)
- its best that you listen to the session while having the above presentation material opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speakers. (O09)
- if you want to skip the introductions and jump straight to the body of the moderator and panelists' briefs, please start your playback at the 0:07:05 time point. (O80)