[ontolog] Technical Discussion session - June 30, 2005 (CVG)
- Topic: "Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service Sciences -- Ontological Implications of Service Oriented Architecture" (DL6)
- Moderator: BillMcCarthy (DL7)
- Panelists: (DMS)
- DuaneNickull (Adobe / UN/CEFACT) - Service Oriented Architecture (or someone representing the UN/CEFACT work on the SOA) (D5I)
- GeorgeBrown (Intel / Arizona State U / IMS) - POSE (Pattern Ontology for the extended Service Enterprise) (D5G)
- MichaelGruninger (NIST) - PSL, Ontological Engineering (D64)
Conference Call Details (DL5)
- Date: Thursday, June 30, 2005 (DL9)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time / 1:30 PM Eastern Standard Time (see world clock for other time zones) (DLA)
- Duration: 1.5~2.0 hours (DLB)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (DLC)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (DLD)
- Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (DLE)
- view-only password: "ontolog" (DLF)
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- people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the slides below and runing them locally. The speaker will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk. (DLH)
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- Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_06_30 (DLJ)
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- Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (DLL)
Attendees (DLM)
- Attended: (DLN)
- BillMcCarthy (DN9)
- RexBrooks (DNI)
- PatHeinig (DO3)
- PeterYim (DND)
- JamesDouma (DOA)
- SteveRay (DNE)
- ConradBock (DOB)
- MichaelGruninger (DNC)
- Al Jones (NIST) (DOC)
- PaulKoch (DOD)
- EvanWallace (DO2)
- BobSmith (DNM)
- Richard Manning (Sun Microsystems) (DNO)
- AndersTell (DNS)
- KurtConrad (DO6)
- MonicaMartin (DNN)
- DuaneNickull (DNA)
- EMichaelMaximilien (IBM Almaden Research Center) (DNW)
- Hakan Hacigunus (IBM Almaden Research Center) (DOE)
- Jayne Dutra (NASA / JPL) (DOF)
- CarlReed (DO0)
- GeorgeBrown (Intel) (DNB)
- DougMcDavid (DNJ)
- Bob Glushko (UC Berkeley) (DOG)
- DavidWhitten (DOH)
- John Robert Gardner (Sun Microsystems) (DNP)
- PatCassidy (DOI)
- Expecting: (DLO)
- BoNewman (DNF)
- PeterBrown (DNT)
- MarcWine (DNU)
- NicolasRouquette (DNV)
- DeniseBedford (DO1)
- ...(to register for participation, please add your name here or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)... (DLP)
- Regrets: (DLQ)
- AdamPease (out of the country) (DNQ)
- ChrisMenzel (traveling) (DNR)
- BrandNiemann (DO4)
- SusanTurnbull (DO5)
Agenda & Proceedings (DLR)
- Professor William E. McCarthy from Michigan State University will be moderating this technical discussion session (DLS)
- Abstract (by BillMcCarthy): (DLU)
Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service Sciences -- Ontological Implications of SOA (DN3)
Traditionally, trading partners -- both within and between firms trafficked in bundled tangible products like consumer goods or partially assembled finished goods. Many early e-commerce standards assumed implicitly product-based exchanges. (DN4)
Increasingly however, the growth in exchange and bundling of Services in the US and in other economies has supplanted tangible goods as the raison detre of international and domestic commerce. Estimates of the percentage of the gross domestic product of the US due to services (as opposed to goods) range as high as 80%. This trend has led to increased interest in services and the establishment of new research centers like the proposed "Center for Services Sciences" at U.C. Berkeley. A good of overview of such trends is the brief article by Henry Chesbrough: (DN5)
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/9b743b2a-0e0b-11d9-97d3-00000e2511c8,dwp_uuid=6f0b3526-07e3-11d9-9673-00000e2511c8.html (DN6)
In e-commerce, this growth in service provision has been mirrored by the advent of Service-Oriented Architectures which support integration and creation of composite solutions (bundles of services) from loosely-coupled components assembled both within an enterprise (outputs from legacy applications) and outside of the enterprise (typically XML-based Web services). (DN7)
Whether or not the integrated services originate from incompatible operations inside the firm or from incompatible vendor interfaces from outside the firms, semantic inconsistencies, redundancies, and discrepancies make the vision of integrated services an ontological problem. The purpose of this panel is to explore the ontological implications of Service Sciences in general and of Service-Oriented Architectures in particular. We will start our Ontolog session with some general comments from notable practitioners in the SOA and ontology areas. We will then open up the discussion to more general comments and critiques. (DN8)
- Session Format: this is be a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (DMW)
- 1. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (10~15 minutes) (DMX)
- 2. Introduction of Moderator and Panelists (DMY)
- 3. Opening by Moderator (DMZ)
- 4. 10-minute summary perspective by each panelist on the subject (DN0)
- 5. Open Discussion by all participants (DN1)
- 6. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up (Moderator) (DN2)
- Moderator and Panelists' prepared slides or material (if there is any) can be accessed by pointing your web browsers to: (DM2)
- http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-Discussion/ontological-implications-of-SOA_20050630/Ontolog-SOA-combined-panelists-20050630.ppt (DM3)
- links to additional relevant resources: (DM4)
- from GeorgeBrown - "Enabling SOA Implementation with an Integrated Process & Technology Framework" (DM5)
- from MichaelGruninger - Ontological Implications of Service-Oriented Architecture (DO7)
- from DuaneNickull - Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model (DO8)
- from EEMichaelMaximilien / IBM Almaden Services Research (ASR) - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EMichaelMaximilien#nidDOJ (DOU)
- (please post any additional resources here) (DM6)
- Any material outside of the prepared presentation, if they are called up during the session, may be shared under the VNC session detailed above (DM7)
- If you have questions for the presenter, we appreciate your posting them here: (please identify yourself) (DM8)
- Session ended 2005.06.30 12:30pm PDT (DMD)
Session Recording of this Panel Discussion (DME)
(Thanks to KurtConrad and PeterYim for their help with getting the session recorded. =ppy) (DMF)
- To download the audio recording of the presentation, click here (DMH)
- the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer. (DMI)
- Conference Date and Time: June 30, 2005 10:40am~12:30pm Pacific Daylight Time (DMJ)
- Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 49 Minutes (DMK)
- Recording File Size: 38.3 MB (in mp3 format) (DML)
- Telephone Playback Expiration Date: July 10, 2005 12:56 AM Pacific Std Time (DMM)
- Prior to the above Expiration Date, one can call-in and hear the telephone playback of the session. (DMN)
- Playback Dial-in Number: 1-805-620-4002 (Ventura, CA) (DMO)
- Playback Access Code: 192414# (DMP)
- suggestion: best that you listen to the session while having the above material opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker. (DMQ)