ConferenceCall 2004 10 21

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2004-10-21    (3N8)

Conference Call Details    (3N9)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2004-10-21    (3NA)

• Agenda Comments:    (3NB)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (3NC)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (3ND)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (3NE)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (3NF)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (3NG)
  • Wiki page for this call is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_10_21    (3NH)
• Date: Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004    (3NI)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time    (3NJ)
• End Time: 11:55 AM Pacific Standard Time    (3NK)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (3NL)
• Participant Access Code: "0686564#"    (3NM)

Attendees    (3NN)

• Attended:    (3NO)
  • PeterYim    (3NP)
  • AdamPease    (3NQ)
  • AlanStitzer    (3NR)
  • BobSmith    (3NS)
  • GarretMinakawa    (3NT)

• Expecting:    (3NU)

• Regrets:    (3NV)
  • KurtConrad (conflict with HP meeting)    (3NW)
  • SusanTurnbull (conflict with AIC meeting)    (3NX)
  • BoNewman (Would like to be able -- but can't attend this week)    (3NY)
  • Henk Meeter (from Germany)    (3NZ)

Agenda Ideas    (3O0)

• (please add suggested agenda items here)    (3O1)

• Note of appreciation from SusanTurnbull on the Ontolog / Protege presentation on the 2004-10-19 Collaborative Expedition Workshop at NSF: "Peter, thank you for the superb session that you and Mark led on Tuesday on behalf of Ontolog Forum and Protege. Thanks to Holger for his wonderful introduction and demo on Protege."    (3O2)

• BobSmith: Henk Meeter, in Germany, may be joining the ORB project at Ontolog (Configuration Management --Ontology tool builder within SAP's suite of manufacturing facilities).    (3O3)

Agenda & Proceedings    (3O4)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (3O5)

• AdamPease took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (3O6)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (3O7)

• PeterYim volunteered    (3O8)

3) Roll-call of participants    (3O9)

• see above    (3OA)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (3OB)

• suggested standing schedule (on a monthly basis):    (3OC)
  • Week 1: Continue planning work    (3OD)
  • Week 2: Guest speaker    (3OE)
  • Week 3: Project review    (3OF)
  • Week 4: Workshop    (3OG)

• Guest Speaker schedule:    (3OH)
  • MarkPalmer (NIST) - Tue Oct. 26, 2004 (EvanWallace / PeterYim) - confirmed    (3OI)
  • ChrisMenzel - Thu Nov. 4, 2004 - confirmed (AdamPease) - tutorial on various families of logical languages    (3OJ)
    • informal discussion, around SCL.    (3OK)
  • ChrisWelty (IBM) - Thu Nov. 18, 2004 - (BillMcCarthy / EvanWallace) - Chris will be calling in from Italy    (3OL)
  • MarkMusen - December 9, 2004 - confirmed (PeterYim)    (3OM)
  • future candidates -    (3ON)
    • MichaelUschold (EvanWallace will help check the possibilities with Mike)    (3OO)
    • ConradBock (NIST) on UML2/OCL - Q1/2005 (PeterYim)    (3OP)

• planning for a joint SICoP-Ontolog-Health conference call as a continuation of our Joint SICoP-Ontolog ConferenceCall_2004_08_12 on the subject.    (3OQ)
  • this might come up fairly soon (within thenext two weeks). Therefore, all those who have expressed interest previously, please be on the lookout.    (3OR)

• potential invitation of a joint SICoP-Ontolog presentation to the Environmental Health Thesaurus Forum (NIEHS/NIH/HHS) on Nov. 19, 2004.    (3OS)
  • PeterYim will find out more and report next week.    (3OT)

• updates on the Dec. 1. 2004 (Menlo Park) EDIX "Semantic Harmonization" presentaiton & panel    (3OU)
  • To be there: PeterYim, AdamPease, KurtConrad, LeoObrst (remote), SteveRay (remote), ... (add your name) - we need all the support we can get to make our case    (3OV)
  • (from JonBosak): You will need to register in advance at http://www.comptia.org/events/get_event.aspx?eventid=EIDX200412    (3OW)
    • Use the promotional code CTIA1204 to waive the $550 conference fee    (3OX)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (3OY)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (3OZ)

• Note of appreciation from SusanTurnbull on the Ontolog / Protege presentation on the 2004-10-19 Collaborative Expedition Workshop at NSF: "Peter, thank you for the superb session that you and Mark led on Tuesday on behalf of Ontolog Forum and Protege. Thanks to Holger for his wonderful introduction and demo on Protege."    (3P0)
  • see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BestPracticeProcessforImplementingFEA_Data_Reference_Model_XMLProfile_2004_10_19    (3P1)

7) Status of Protege-KIF project work    (3P2)

• updates from meeting between PatCassidy, HolgerKnubaluch & PeterYim on 2004.10.19    (3P3)

8) Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (3P4)

• [CCT-Rep] status report    (3P5)
• Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (3P6)
• Formalization issues    (3P7)
• UBL Liaison update    (3P8)

• The following has been transferred over from our last call - we could continue where we left off.    (3P9)

•    (3PA)
  • [CCT-Rep] draft near-term work plan: (--proposed by: PeterYim / 2004.09.30; updated: ppy/2004.10.07; ppy/2004.10.14)    (3PB)
    • (dates indicated represent our weekly call date; task description(s) covers work expected to be started/done during a specific call, and completed/reviewed during the immediate following week, prior to the next call.)    (3PC)
    • Thu 2004.09.30 - (i) closure of [cctont] draft, and its release for comments; (ii) initiate collection of input for "lessons learned" and appropriate feedback that we could provide to the standards development colleagues. (see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid0134)    (3PD)
    • Thu 2004.10.07 - adopt workplan, confirm commitments, continuation of last week's tasks    (3PE)
    • Thu 2004.10.14 - (i) review comments and fine tune [cctont]; (ii) import [cctont] with ProtegeKIF tool; (iii) discuss and initiate mapping/translation tasks (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid0136) (iv) discuss title and key topics/contents for the whitepaper that we are going to publish    (3PF)
    • Thu 2004.10.21 - (i) review first set of mapping results; (ii) start drafting the "Paper(s)"    (3PG)
    • Thu 2004.10.26 - Ontolog invited speaker session - MarkPalmer on eBSC    (3PH)
    • Thu 2004.10.28 - (i) 2nd review of mapping results; (ii) review draft "Paper(s)"    (3PI)
    • Thu 2004.11.04 - Ontolog invited speaker session - ChrisMenzel    (3PJ)
    • Thu 2004.11.11 - (i) final review of mapping results; (ii) finalize "Paper(s)"; (iii) identify the presenter(s) for the EIDX panel; (iv) start drafting the "Semantic Harmonisation" presentation.    (3PK)
    • Thu 2004.11.18 - Ontolog invited speaker session - ChrisWelty    (3PL)
    • Thu 2004.11.25 - review and finalize "Semantic Harmonisation" presentation    (3PM)
    • Wed 2004.12.01 - EIDX "Semantic Harmonisation" Panel Presentation - (2~5pm, Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, CA)    (3PN)

•    (3PO)
  • The "Input" pages - for helping us put together our collective insight and recommendations: (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid040)    (3PP)
    • Feedback, Comments, Suggestions for the CCT-Representaion project work: CctRepresentation/CctRep_Feedback    (3PQ)
      • this is for collecting feedback from the team, the ontolog community, the e-business standards development community, and the public at large to the CCT-Ontology development team (i.e. for incoming feedback, from ontolog's perspective) to collaboratively improve on the quality and relevance of this work.    (3PR)
    • Draft Feedback and Recommendations for other eBusiness Standards Working Groups: CctRepresentation/CctRep_Recommendation    (3PS)
      • this is in preparation for the compilation of position paper(s) that the CCT-Representation project team and the Ontolog community can present to the various e-business standards development bodies (i.e. for outgoinging feedback, from ontolog's perspective) that will include (but not limited to) learnings and recommendations as a result of this work.    (3PT)
      • a Business Case section has been added to the CctRepresentation/CctRep_Recommendation page to capture inputs to build up the arguments for supporting our ontological engineering (semantic technologies) approach. (--ppy/2004.10.14)    (3PU)

•    (3PV)
  • see [cctont] draft v0.3b at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-3b.html    (3PW)
    • Adam will updated cct-rep.kif and updating [cctont] v0.3b to v0.4a - to be completed latest by the next call, but target to finish today (2004.10.21)    (3PX)

•    (3PY)
  • Kurt will make a post to solicit an operational definition of "Semantic Harmonization" - still oustanding    (3PZ)

• Preparation for the 2004.12.01 presentaiton & panel: Questions for Adam    (3Q0)
  • given a kif-based ontology for CCT, how does one go about to apply it?    (3Q1)
    • 1. help with information or system analysis (design time)    (3Q2)
    • 2. semi-automated debugging of the data model (testing for contradictions) (design time)    (3Q3)
    • 3. lightweight inference (e.g. taxonomic inference at runtime)    (3Q4)
    • 4. full first order logic inference - expert system type work (runtime)    (3Q5)

• drawing upon the 3 use cases we have identified - document validation or reconciliation, language/context mapping, interlingua among-different standards - what is the compelling reason(s) for the ontology    (3Q6)
  • moving from information stove pipe to shared semantics    (3Q7)
  • taking the definition from a weaker language (i.e. English in the case of CCT) to a formal logic language    (3Q8)

• To define the standard: our approach is to have BOTH a lexicon (a collection of words) and an ontology (a collection of terms with formal definitions in axioms).    (3Q9)

• suggested that Garret might work on a small application that would "use" the [cctont]    (3QA)

9) New project proposals    (3QB)

• Ontolog Review of Books (and Stuff)    (3QC)
  • item not covered    (3QD)

10) Sponsorship and funding    (3QE)

•    (3QF)
  • item not covered    (3QG)

11) Other business    (3QH)

•    (3QI)
  • item not covered    (3QJ)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (3QK)

• two conference calls next week    (3QL)
  • Tue 2004.10.26 - MarkPalmer presenting/discussing the work of the eBSC (eBusiness Standards Convergence) Forum    (3QM)
  • Thu 2004.10.28 - our regular weekly call and workshop.    (3QN)

• call adjourned 11:476am PDT    (3QO)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim
 ppy / 2004.10,21 11:49am PDT    (3QP)