ConferenceCall 2004 04 08

Ontolog Community Conference Call - Thu 2004-04-08    (1OV)

Conference Call Details    (1OW)

• MeetingsCalls: [ontolog] Planning Workshop conference call Thu 2004-04-08    (1OX)
• Comments/Agenda:    (1OY)
  • Agenda: Continuation of the ONTOLOG Community and Project Planning exercise that was started at the Nov-2003 San Francisco face-to-face workshop, our 2004-01-08 & 2004-02-05 conference calls. The planning workshop shall continue virtually during this call session.    (1OZ)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (1P0)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (1P1)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (1P2)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at:    (1P3)
    • http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2004_04_08 &    (1P4)
    • http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologPlanning_2004    (1P5)
• Date: Thursday, Apr. 08, 2004    (1P6)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time    (1P7)
• End Time: 11:55 AM Pacific Standard Time    (1P8)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (1P9)
• Participant Access Code: "200448#"    (1PA)

Attendees    (1PB)

• Attended:    (1PC)
  • KurtConrad    (1PD)
  • PeterYim    (1PE)
  • AdamPease (can only attend for a little bit, though, due to a schedule conflict)    (1PF)
  • BillMcCarthy    (1PG)
  • PatCassidy    (1PH)
  • MonicaMartin    (1PI)

• Expecting:    (1PJ)
  • CeceliaHickel    (1PK)
• Regrets:    (1PL)
  • BoNewman    (1PM)

Agenda Ideas    (1PN)

• among others, can we work out a "deliverables roadmap" for, say, the next 12 to 18 months? (--ppy)    (1PO)
  • let's put some organization and structure and around our 2 current projects (--ppy)    (1PP)
• note new graphic clickable icon for our wiki (see upper right corner). If people have something better (a logo or an icon for our community), please send it in, so that we can have some choice, and finalize on one. How about if we open this up for one month, and then take a vote then (if we have multiple choices). (--ppy/2004.03.30)    (1PQ)
• we are finalizing on the invitation of a guest speaker who will likely to be presenting on Thu 22-Apr-2004. Please mark your calendars now. Announcement coming real soon.    (1PR)
• Continuation of the ONTOLOG Community and Project Planning exercise:    (1PS)
  • that was started at the Nov-2003 San Francisco face-to-face workshop.    (1PT)
  • and continued at the Conference_Call_2004-01-08    (1PU)
  • and at our ConferenceCall_2004_02_05    (1PV)
• refer to details at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologPlanning_2004    (1PW)

Agenda & Proceedings    (1PX)

1) Welcome    (1PY)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (1PZ)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (1Q0)

• PeterYim volunteered    (1Q1)

3) Roll-call of participants    (1Q2)

• see above    (1Q3)

4) Planning Discussions    (1Q4)

• Kurt mentioned that he has two active clients now, and that's all the more reason to structure our work properly -- in particular, defining our project leadership.    (1Q5)

• Adam: we would need better participation    (1Q6)

• Peter suggests that Adam should take on the leadership role for the UblOntology project    (1Q7)
  • Adam: we will need to talk about this more (before a decision can be made)    (1Q8)

• Peter asked: "Are we all supposed to be (or become) ontologists?"    (1Q9)
  • Peter and Pat think no    (1QA)
  • Adam and Bill think yes    (1QB)

• Pat still need to talk to people about the "intents" of what is in the Core Component Technical Spec, so that he can tie down the model he is working on to represent the core components    (1QC)
  • Monica will provide Pat with some contacts that might help    (1QD)
  • Kurt, Peter and Bill thinks that Pat will not be able to get a unified answer (at least one is is staisfactory to an ontologist.)    (1QE)

• Bill: we are in the middle, in between the standards people and the formal ontologists    (1QF)
  • therefore, the work we are attempting is meaningful    (1QG)
  • if we don't fall victim to inheriting the "bad" traits of both these parties    (1QH)

• UblOntology project issues    (1QI)
  • time    (1QJ)
  • expertise    (1QK)
    • training issues    (1QL)
  • Project alignment    (1QM)
    • core goals and principals    (1QN)
  • Process    (1QO)
    • how do we arrive at consensus    (1QP)

• Kurt: "Can these be resolved?" & "Are we willing to resolve them?"    (1QQ)
  • Bill: yes and yes    (1QR)
  • Monica: we should at least give it our best try    (1QS)
  • Pat: I'll be happy to particpate, I need a better picture on what is intended    (1QT)
  • Kurt: workable based on two assumptions:    (1QU)
    • 1. recruitment    (1QV)
    • 2. restart the project, getting structures and alignment tied down first    (1QW)

• Peter: let's try to look at 3 complementary projects, rather than just one    (1QX)
  • UblOntology    (1QY)
  • ProtegeKIF    (1QZ)
  • CctRepresentation    (1R0)

• Kurt: we need to    (1R1)
  • put out a "recruitment" solicitation    (1R2)
  • put together a "lessons learnt"    (1R3)
    • Peter: suggest we follow the OASIS process, with establishing our projects akin to the initialization of OASIS TC's    (1R4)

• Kurt: should we actively coalesce or try to bootstrap    (1R5)
  • Bill, Monica, Kurt - let's actively coalesce    (1R6)
  • Peter: maybe, actively bootstrap    (1R7)
  • Kurt: we'll use the next week to aggregate our "lessons learned"    (1R8)
    • Prior to next week's meeting, please contribute findings on the following page: UBLLessonsLearned    (1R9)

5) Invited Speakers    (1RA)

• BrandNiemann - April 22, 2004    (1RB)
• SteveNewcomb - May, 2004 (Kurt and Peter will work on finalizing the date)    (1RC)

6) Next call: Thu 2004-04-15 10:30am~11:30 PDT    (1RD)

• Call adjourned 11:41am PDT    (1RE)

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 notes captured in realtime by PeterYim
 ppy / 2004.04.08_11:43am    (1RF)