Re: [bsp-forum] Person Machine Interface (PMI)

["Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Rex and Toby - 

Thanks for the messages. Michelle and I communicated off list, my main concern was that the PMI was an achievable work result which has been confirmed - thanks! 

The specification came from an MEP engineer, fairly consistent with their other sections so it was probably based on the manufacturers originally then modified to work with the rest of the project. It is impressive how far along these systems, including BCS, have come even in the last couple years.  I am an A201 purist meaning all the documents address only the Owner, Architect, and Contractor. Subcontractors and Engineers are not separate entities, my only beef with the new and improved systems is our engineers have a tendency to use the spec to divide the work by talking too much about what the plumbing contractor does, what electrical does, what the BCS supplier does. The selection of course requires expertise, but the in-field implementation is probably a bumpy road but if there has ever been a need for one general contractor to be responsible for whole systems, digital-addressable fire alarms and BCS are them. 

Some time at your convenience, could some one provide a simple explanation of BACnet and how the building systems actually link up to communication networks outside the building? What is achievable / realistic expectations for project specifications today vs goals for the future especially in regards to OBIX and ED XML? Is it just an old habit for construction documents to call for "Microsoft Windows based" in this day and age? 

Hope the Silver Sentinel exercise goes well. I met Chuck McLean and Guillaume Radde at the Oct 7 Expedition Workshop and am scheduled to talk with Chuck McLean about standardizing the GIS symbology/colors for building types and the pros and cons of the fire control room (also called fire command center). For example, I think this space or, panel location if there is not a space, should be consistently numbered. There is not a good match in OCCS Table 13 Spaces by Function. The closest are 13 81 31 21 99 Other Information Signal Distribution Spaces or 13 81 21 24 Telecommunications Room but neither of those are correct.  Any way he said he was traveling - evidently your way. It *IS* a small world after all. 

Best, 

Deborah 

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Deborah, Michelle, Everyone,

Sorry I didn't get back to this sooner, but as Michelle knows, we had
a ton of work getting ready for Wednesday's
presentation-demonstration to the DM OPEN SIG from the NIST workshop.
It went very well, but fatigue caught up with me. I should be back in
the saddle over the weekend, and I will review all the developments
and get back to work. I think the last two weeks were excellent, and
the challenge now is to convert the discussions and new connections
into further action. Chuck McLean and Guillaume Radde from the NIST
Manufacturing Modeling Simulation group will be in town for the
October 23rd Silver Sentinel exercise and I will be meeting with
Chuck after next week's IRSC meeting. I will send an invitation to
the BSP list for that meeting because momentum and convergence needs
follow up.

Have a great weekend,
Rex

At 4:06 PM -0400 10/15/08, Deborah MacPherson wrote:
>Hi Michelle and Rex,
>
>I'm reviewing a digital addressable fire-alarm system for a hotel.
>The paragraph below caught my attention and wanted to pass along to
>you see if this is realistic or achievable. It makes me now worried
>about the Building Control System requirements too. Typically I only
>review for conflicts with the contract and similar but I couldn't
>help notice this perhaps unachievable result.
>
>Any expertise or comments would be sincerely appreciated.
>
>Thanks - Deborah
>
>The Person Machine Interface (PMI) or the Remote Person Machine
>Interface annunciator (PMI REM) shall provide the system information
>on six inch 1/4 VGA monochrome LCD, with Touch Screen and LED
>display.  The PMI shall provide floor plans with alarm type and "You
>Are Here" indication.  The PMI shall be navigable by device/module
>custom message in the system architecture with no need for device
>address knowledge.  The PMI shall provide a physical as well as a
>system graphic view.  Graphic user interface shall be menu driven
>with 4 tabs showing the level and the total events for each tab. The
>tabs shall be; Alarm, Supervisory, Trouble, and Security.  Each
>level shall show 5 events simultaneously.  The LED displays shall
>indicate Power, Audibles On or Silenced, and Partial system
>disabled.  Systems not having the above LEDS shall provide separate
>LED's within the control panel enclosure with appropriate labels.
> Selection buttons shall be backlit to aid the operator in the
>selection process.  There shall be controls for scrolling throughout
>the event list.  A button shall provide zoom in and zoom out for the
>amount of information desired for a specific entry.  The PMI shall
>be capable of monitoring the power supply loading and show available
>capacity for future expansion planning.  The PMI LCD shall provide
>standard NFPA symbols showing Fire Service Equipment, Hazards
>compliant with NFPA 170 and People in the area of alarm.  Systems
>without this type of display shall supply a UL listed Graphics
>package with their system.  The LCD shall have a keyboard screen to
>allow the technician ability to enter test and numbers for passwords
>or text changes.  The module shall be model number PMI.
>
>Acceptable Manufacturers listed are: Seimens Building Technologies
>(Branch Office Only); Simplex; Edwards System Technologies Inc.; and
>Notifier.
>
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>Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics
>Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC
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