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PeterYim: Welcome to the

= OpenOntologyRepository: Metadata Workshop-V - Tue 2012_01_17 =

Topic: OOR Metadata Workshop-V: Crosswalk between OMV & CTS2, 
                 and other relevant work by the NIH/NCI-ORWG 

Session Chair: MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto)

Panelists from NIH/NCI ORWG: 
* HaroldSolbrig (Mayo Clinic) 
* SherriDeCoronado (NCI/NIH) 
* BrianDavis (3rd Millennium / Booz Allen Hamilton)

Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_01_17

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MyCoyne: How do I indicate other people in the same room with me?

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RickKiefer: Harold is unable to connect to vpn.  Please reference this copy of the slides - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/OOR-metadata-workshop/OMV-CTS2-Crosswalk--HaroldSolbrig_20120117.pdf

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MichaelGruninger: Note that we are now on slide 21 (not 26 as Harold just said)

PeterYim: @MyCoyne - please post (on this chat space) the names of people who are with you now, if you please - I'll capture that into the attendees roster later.

JamesOdell: OK

DeanAllemang: Darn!  My call just dropped.  I was interested in understanding how CTS2 versions works with OWL2 versioning.  The call dropped while he was explaining this.

PeterYim: @Dean - hope you can call back in

PeterYim: on slide#54 now

PeterYim: on slide#55 [9:31am PST]

DeanAllemang: I made it back in a minute later, but that was too late for this discussion

PeterYim: @Dean - we'll have some time for Q&A and open discussion

DeanAllemang: that's right

DeanAllemang: and those versions are all related together according to the OWL2 standard?

DeanAllemang: that's right

DeanAllemang: even in production, that can be a problem

DeanAllemang: thanks

ToddSchneider: A question: How did use of REST help?

HaroldSolbrig: @Todd - identifying the resources, assigning identity, determining which characteristics are key vs. accidental was one aspect.

HaroldSolbrig: The second was the removal of dependencies - our earlier models had containment models

ToddSchneider: Harold, thank you.

HaroldSolbrig: COde systems "contained" definitions.  REST made us refactor into "Class describedIn Version"

HaroldSolbrig: Especially important as in the Semantic Web world, Class to ontologyVersion is n..m

ToddSchneider: Harold, could you remind me of the definition of 'code system'?

MyCoyne: Where do I get Sherri's presentation, please?

HaroldSolbrig: Code set, classification system, thesaurus, ontology, glossary

MikeBennett: With terminology you've also got the whole ISO 1087 / SBVR world of terms.

HaroldSolbrig: @Todd - some people use "Ontology" to represent all of those things, but then you need a different term for small "ontology"

ToddSchneider: Harold, got it. Short memory span.

PeterYim: @MyCoyne - Sherri doesn't have slides, she is introducing the ORWG and their work - see: https://wiki.nci.nih.gov/display/VCDE/Ontology+Representation+WG

ToddSchneider: Some people don't understand many things.

ToddSchneider: Harold, how would you see CTS2 fitting into the OOR architecture?

HaroldSolbrig: The number of things that I don't understand is infinite.

ToddSchneider: Harold, you have a start - a rough metric

HaroldSolbrig: CTS2 could serve as one of the REST (and, perhaps SOAP) API's to allow federation and sharing.

HaroldSolbrig: The advantage being that you don't necessarily HAVE to absorb everything.

HaroldSolbrig: You can reference other catalogs elsewhere on the net.

ToddSchneider: Ken, do you see using something like CTS2 as part of the workflow engine?

ToddSchneider: A goal of the OOR architecture is provide a specification (in the sense that Harold described).

ToddSchneider: Harold, did I understand you correctly that the CTS2 specification is not publicly available yet?

HaroldSolbrig: @Todd - public.  Available from the OMG site or the CTS2 URL I sent.  Again, a bit opaque and being clarified...

DeborahMacPherson: Great Presentation! Got a lot from it - thanks - need to take off for another conference call.

KenBaclawski: @Todd - it is not part of the workflow engine. The workflow engine is configurable so it should be possible to specify CTS2 as one possible workflow.

ToddSchneider: We should consider the use of CTS2 in the OOR for terminology mediation.

ToddSchneider: Harold, thank you for an excellent presentation. Have to go.

HaroldSolbrig: Thanks.  I'm going to have to go in about 2 minutes as well.

PeterYim: great session, thanks everyone!

MikeBennett: Thanks all!

PeterYim: -- session ended 10:06am PST --