ppy/oor-content-03_chat-transcript_unedited_20120626a.txt ------------ Chat transcript from room: oor_20120626 2012-06-26 GMT-08:00 ------------ [08:28] PeterYim: Welcome to the = OOR Content Workshop-III - Tue 2012_06_26 = Topic: OOR Content Workshop-III: "Coordinating the OOR Content Drive" Session Co-chairs: MichaelGruninger (U of Toronto) & MikeDean (Raytheon-BBN) Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_06_26 Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" . == Proceedings: == . [08:33] anonymous morphed into TomTinsley [08:33] anonymous morphed into MikeBennett [08:34] anonymous morphed into FrankOlken [08:37] List of attendees: Bob Smith , Bob Smith 1, FrankOlken, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger, MikeBennett, MikeDean, PeterYim, TerryLongstreth, TomTinsley, anonymous [08:38] List of members: Bob Smith , FrankOlken, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger, MikeBennett, MikeDean, PeterYim, TerryLongstreth, TomTinsley [08:39] MichaelGruninger: FIBO ontologies from Mike Bennett will be uploaded to the sandbox instance [08:42] MichaelGruninger: at sandbox.oor.net [08:48] PeterYim: MikeDean (or KenBaclawski) will help MikeBennett with the upload (to the OOR sandbox) where necessary [08:51] MikeDean: good opportunity for paper on interaction of (user-defined) ontology modules and ontology repositories [08:52] MikeDean: existing research has focused more on algorithms for decomposing ontologies into modules [08:52] MikeDean: e.g. http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~ts/womo2012/WoMO_2012/Home.html [08:57] MikeDean: could be used for NASA SWEET, etc. [08:59] PeterYim: "super domain ontologies" (as MITRE calls it) [08:59] MikeBennett: Vision for a federation of industry-led ontology standards covering common concepts which may be federated and referred to in deeper domain ontologies. [08:59] MikeBennett: Taking industry bodies as the appropriate authority for the meanings of terms [09:00] MikeBennett: Meanwhile for meaningful terms in our (FIBO) ontologies we have had to define more abstract terms, up to the level of 'archetypcai' terms e.g. for commitments, transactions, contracts, places etc. [09:00] PeterYim: MichaelGruninger: the "value add" of an Ontology Repositories [09:01] MikeBennett: So for example a financial ontology has bonds, shares etc., but these are all actually contracts. [09:02] MichaelGruninger: TONEs Ontology repository: http://owl.cs.manchester.ac.uk/repository/ [09:02] MikeBennett: We have done some exciting work in aligning terms between the REA ontology and an XBRL view of the world, using high level partitions and archetypes to show how terms in one may be described with reference to the other, and the whole provides the atomic building blocks for concepts we draw upon in financial services. [09:02] MikeBennett: Similarly, we have a need for ontologies in real estate, construction etc. in order to create new models of Loans. [09:02] PeterYim: "federation" [09:06] anonymous morphed into Shannon Copeland [09:06] PeterYim: == TomTinsley: intro ... Enterprise architecture as an upper ontology [09:08] MikeBennett: Sign-up process: the 'input text' widget is not working at present. [09:12] TerryLongstreth: @Tom - is your otter(?) demo publically accessible? can you give us a URL? [09:14] PeterYim: == ShannonCopeland: intro ... doing a startup in the legal side of things, risk, contract, ... (met MikeBennett at SemTech) [09:15] MikeBennett: @BobSmith Is there an ontology for construction concepts which can be considered as canonical? We need to not reinvent such terms for construction loans and other loan types (per the MISMO logical / message standards which we are ontologizing). [09:15] Shannon Copeland: scopeland [at] kiltown.com [09:16] Shannon Copeland: my email above [09:17] Bob Smith : Hi Shannon - Ryan Caulker, Esq., of Natl Institute of Building Sciences, has created a workgroup formalizing risk levels in high performance building projects. I'm the terminology guy on the subcommittee [09:18] Shannon Copeland: Bob, can you share your email as well? [09:18] MikeBennett: NSF EarthCube project - is this an ontology project? [09:20] Bob Smith : Bob [at] 1TallTrees.com [09:21] TomTinsley: The OTTER project was presented at KEOD 2011. The name is derived from Ontology Technology That Executes Real-time. [09:23] MikeBennett: Something you should pursue on government data is the NIEM initiative. [09:24] MikeBennett: NIEM is currently logical data but there is an interest within the OMG folks working this, to consider OWL at some point - I don't have details as i'm not involved, the best person to speak to is Cory Casanave. [09:26] MikeBennett: Super-domain ontologies and upper ontologies are key to developing interoperable ontologies in whatever field. [09:33] MikeBennett: I think a lot of commercial consultancies will be interested in pursuing the combination of big data and ontologies. Linking with statistics is also a growing area of interest in people we have been speaking to (and of course in Watson, Google etc.). [09:35] PeterYim: "OOR for 'Big Data' session" now scheduled for Tue 2012.08.14 [09:40] PeterYim: making this an Joint OOR-Ontolog session [09:41] PeterYim: ^Mike Dean will mull over the content for this session [09:43] TerryLongstreth: With potential followup at next onto summit [09:43] PeterYim: MichaelGruninger will continue to follow-up with PatCassidy and DeniseBedford on driving "content" [09:44] PeterYim: Regular monthly OOR team meeting same time next Tuesday 2012.07.03 ... talk to you all then [09:44] PeterYim: -- session ended: 9:43am PDT -- ------------