ppy/oor_chat-transcript_unedited_20130521a.txt ------ Chat transcript from room: oor_20130521 2013-05-21 GMT-08:00 [PDT] ------ [8:33] PeterYim: Welcome to the = OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2013_05_21 = session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_05_21 . == Proceedings: == . [8:39] PeterYim: == please post your thoughts: retrospect (from the OOR vantage point) - supporting and leveraging OntologySummit2013 [8:40] MichaelGruninger: the use of hackathons as a way of spurring progress on the implementation side [8:41] MikeBennett: Valuable findings on ontology assessment tools and methodology - wonder how this would fit in with OOR e.g. gatekeeping, formal process? [8:41] PeterYim: generally it was great! ... the Hackathon gave us an opportunity to get down to do some (way overdue) real work ... [8:41] TillMossakowski: It was great to discuss the OOR API at HC07 with Ken and Peter. We have made significant progress. [8:41] KenBaclawski: The hackathon was a great advance. We should repeat it. [8:42] MikeBennett: Some valuable thoughts on use of upper ontologies, considerations around different partitions / ontological commitmebnts, came out of some of the Track C presentations, which I think are relevant to OOR in terms of how ontologies may or may not relate to one another. [8:42] PeterYim: ... we didn't have a chance to incorporate OOPS! as a service for the OOR-sandbox; I think we should still do it ... hopefully with the "new" API that wzas agreed upon during the Hackathon [8:43] Bob Smith: The next major advance in the National Building Information Modeling Standard, likely 2016 time frame, may be distributed BIM models. Current concerns with low trustworthiness makes any significant industry and gov't participation for funding questionable UNLESS there are built in Quality Evaluation methods, metrics, and "enforcements". SO the hackathons were most useful [8:44] PeterYim: Michael: think "OOR Hackathon" [8:45] Bob Smith: I'm also fascinated with the potentials of FIBO and Industry Specific Ontology Frameworks in general - especially as Buildings within Cities require Funding and PPP Contractual alignments with infrastructure threats... [8:48] Bob Smith: Amanda's approach to Hackathon design - using the graphic tools within Google Docs to express specific models with annotation was especially helpful to me... [8:49] PeterYim: MikeBennett: community would benefit from a more extensive presentation of what transpired from the FIBO Ontology Evaluation Clinic ... and formalizing that process would be good too [8:50] PeterYim: maybe we could consider fitting regular "hackathon" work sessions into out monthly OOR meeting routines [8:52] MikeBennett: Ontology based standards hackathon - a great idea! [8:55] KenBaclawski: Each hackathon should have specific objectives/deliverables that can be accomplished in the hackathon period. Mike Bennett's suggestions are examples of such objectives. [9:00] PeterYim: == discussion and confirmation: support to TillMossakowski's OntoLATIN proposal - with OOR as a "cooperation partner" [9:01] Bob Smith: Asking SemTech leaders to carve out a day or two do emulate what Peter at Wells Fargo and Dennis Wisnoski are doing to engage the finance/banking sector folks in details of the FIBO project (Financial Industry Business Object) [9:03] PeterYim: @Bob - ^you probably meant "DavidNewman of Wells Fargo" [9:04] MikeBennett: Yes - David Newman and Dennis Wisnosky have pulled this event together, in co-ordination with Eric Franzon at SemTechBiz. I agree that a more industry-side, maybe standards-focused session headed up by OOR the following year would a good follow-on from this. [9:05] MikeBennett: ^ industry-wide, I meant. [9:05] Bob Smith: @Peter - right - http://semtechbizsf2013.semanticweb.com/sessionPop.cfm?confid=70&proposalid=5276 [9:08] PeterYim: [consensus] unanimously agreed to provide Till and the OntoLATIN proposal with a support letter ... (MikeDean & I will try to get that done today or tomorrow) [9:15] PeterYim: == OOR session/program/event planning [9:16] PeterYim: (only tangentially related to OOR, but very much an OntologyBasedStandards activity) I am planning to call a meeting about reviving the QUOMOS work on Thu 2013.05.30 [9:21] MichaelGruninger: possible workshop on using FIBO as a set of test cases for exploring the ontology relationships that we need to capture in OOR and the application of approaches such as DOL as a way of specifying these relationships [9:22] Bob Smith: Bill McCarthy's Ontolog Forum work...https://www.msu.edu/user/mccarth4/rea-ontology/ [9:27] MichaelGruninger: Metadata for FIBO and Related Ontologies [9:27] PeterYim: Metadata series - "Ontology Metadata for FIBO and related Ontologies" - Tue 2013.07.02 [9:31] PeterYim: TillMossakowski and KenBaclawski will start to co-champion a "hackathon" series - with monthly activities ... they'll pick the 3rd Tuesday of every month (the first Tuesdays have been slated for OOR Team planning & admin meetings) [9:32] PeterYim: Hackathon series - "OOR-Ontohub API" - Till & Ken - Tue 2013.06.18 [9:35] PeterYim: Strategy series - "Revisiting OOR Strategy & Tactics" - Peter - Tue 2013.06.25 [9:36] PeterYim: == Status Review - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_05_21#nid3SNM [9:40] PeterYim: ^Ken & Till: Tue 2013.06.18 -Gateekeper will be on the agenda too [9:43] PeterYim: ^Tue 2013.07.02 - chapmions: Gruninger & Bennett [9:53] PeterYim: I'm working on a GUI with liquid.info [9:54] TillMossakowski: sorry, I have to leave now [9:54] PeterYim: which can be very effect with URI's that has the term at the end ... [9:54] PeterYim: ... like: http://sigma-01.cim3.net:8080/sigma/Browse.jsp?kb=SUMO&lang=EnglishLanguage&flang=SUO-KIF&term=Process [9:54] PeterYim: Thanks, Till ... BYe ... I'll contact you offline ref the "letter of support" [9:55] MichaelGruninger: COLORE is being reorganized to eliminate the distinction between core and complex hierarchies. The new organization will mean that each directory corresponds to a unique hierarchy, and all verification directories are included within the hierarchy. All ontologies will have URIs of the form http://colore.oor.net/hierarchy--name/ontology-name/ [10:05] PeterYim: == fixing the regular time: [consensus] best comprise - same time as today's call -1.5Hr starting 11:30am EDT ... [10:07] PeterYim: moving "Strategy & Tactics" meeting up from Tue 2013.06.25 to 2013.05.28 ... see you all all next week, same time! [10:13] PeterYim: -- session ended: 10:07am PDT -- [10:13] List of attendees: PeterYim (chair), BobSmith, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger, MikeBennett, OliverKutz, TillMossakowski, MikeDean ------