ppy/oor_chat-transcript_edited_20140715b.txt ------ Chat transcript from room: oor_20140715 2014-07-15 GMT-08:00 [PDT] ------ [6:59] PeterYim: Welcome to the = OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member Conference Call - Tue 2014_07_15 = * Topic: OOR Moving Forward * Session Co-chairs: MikeDean & PeterYim AGENDA * Review OOR priorities, focus and strategy (4E3R) ** Brainstorm: Future of the OOR Project (4EBI) * Follow-ups relating to PeterYim's retirement (4E3S) * Taking inventory of Ontology Repository instances that are in the OOR network (4E3T) * Scheduling of OOR Events (4E3U) * Member activities updates (4E3V) Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2014_07_15 ATTENDEES * Attended: MikeDean (co-chair), PeterYim (co-chair), DaliaVaranka, LeoObrst, MichaelGruninger, NancyWiegand, TillMossakowski, ToddSchneider * Regrets: MikeBennett, KenBaclawski, GaryBergCross, AdamPease == Proceedings == [7:06] PeterYim: == MikeDean and PeterYim starts the meeting ... [7:06] PeterYim: we will try to finish the meeting in an hour if we can (since both Michael and Leo need to leave in an hour) [7:06] List of members: LeoObrst, MichaelGruninger, MikeDean, PeterYim, TillMossakowski, ToddSchneider [7:08] PeterYim: === Brainstorm: Future of the OOR Project [7:08] PeterYim: ==== exploring a closer-coupled working relationship between IAOA and OOR [7:09] ToddSchneider: Is IAOA interested in running an ontology repository? [7:11] MichaelGruninger: The (currently empty) page for the IAOA Ontology Registries and Repositories Technical Committee is http://www.iaoa.org/iaoaTC/TCrepositories/TCrepositories.php [7:13] MichaelGruninger: Technical Committees (TCs) and Special Interest Groups (SIGs) in IAOA differ only in scope (where the latter has a broader scope) [7:15] PeterYim: if OOR gets "absorbed into" the IAOA Ontology Repository TC, would OOR team members need to be IAOA members? [7:17] LeoObrst: IAOA has an exception in the IAOA-SWAO-SIG, in that SIG members do not necessarily have to be IAOA members for participation contribution (but will need to become an IAOA member for voting rights and IAOA membership benefits) [7:17] ToddSchneider: Would the IAOA Ontology Registries and Repositories Technical Committee absorb all of the past work of OOR? [7:19] MichaelGruninger: The IAOA TC was intended to be a support forum for people to find access to any of the ontology repositories that exist. Ideally, IAOA would like to coordinate the activities of ontology repositories [7:20] MikeDean: Umbrella and infrastructure are attractive, but OOR seems much more mature organizationally. OOR also has an established brand. [7:20] LeoObrst: there is no charter yet for that TC [7:22] ToddSchneider: But if IAOA's 'mission' is to promote the use of ontology, should it not provide a source of ontologies? [7:24] MikeDean: OOR focused on software environment as well as content. [7:26] LeoObrst: OOR could become a project under that TC [7:31] ToddSchneider: To Support "... the development of collaborations between research and industry" shouldn't IAOA be providing a test bed or an evolving reference implementation? [7:33] ToddSchneider: There are 'standards' and then there are defacto standards. I wouldn't think it outside the scope of IAOA to support the latter. [7:35] ToddSchneider: Can't IAOA afford commercial web hosting? [7:37] MichaelGruninger: @ToddSchneider[7:35] There are many hosting options possible, and we are still sorting out the new configuration [7:36] LeoObrst: OOR could also remain under new Ontolog [7:37] MikeDean: . as platform host [7:39] ToddSchneider: Who would take over all of the OOR artifacts? [7:44] ToddSchneider: What are the organizational options under IAOA? [7:47] MichaelGruninger: @ToddSchneider: What do you mean by "organizational options"? [7:48] LeoObrst: potentially some OOR funding from IAOA [7:50] PeterYim: "IAOA-TC" and "OOR Initiative" relationship possibilities: "identity," "subsumption," "affiliation," "hosting," ... [7:51] PeterYim: ref. OOR's repository network members: http://oor.net/index1.html [7:54] TillMossakowski: Socop will be hosted by Ontohub, see https://ontohub.org/socop [7:54] MikeDean: [action-PeterYim] Peter to redirect socop.oor.net to OntoHub SOCoP repository, which will now become primary [7:54] TillMossakowski: Peter will change the URL redirection [8:00] MikeDean: Peter willing to allow us to continue to use oor.net indefinitely [8:01] ToddSchneider: Peter, what about the OOR wiki page and all the meeting artifacts? [8:01] PeterYim: exisiting OntologWiki (now at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki ) will become a "read only" archive, all content will migrate to the OntologPSMW (now at: http://ontolog-02.cim3.net/wiki ) ... KenBaclawski-NEU and TillMossakowski-Magdeburg are likely going to host that (still working out the details) ... ongoing OOR work could probably continue there [8:01] MikeDean: If email lists change, they should probably become XXX@oor.net, redirecting to whatever infrastructure is used. [8:01] PeterYim: ^subject to permission by the new hosting party, presumably [8:03] PeterYim: ref. various lists in question: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/admin/ [8:09] PeterYim: [action-PeterYim-TillMossakowski] will move the following lists: [oor-forum], [oor-dev] and [oor-users] from cim3.net to uni-magdeburg.de (along with the 18 IAOA lists) [8:20] PeterYim: NancyWiegand and DaliaVaranka are also in the meeting (have logged in a while back already; Nancy since ~7:30) [8:11] PeterYim: === 3.3 Taking inventory of Ontology Repository instances that are in the OOR network - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2014_07_15#nid4E4W adding/changing: * SOCoP-OOR (taken offline since 2014.03.25 - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/2014-03/msg00000.html ) - to be re-directed to Ontohub as discussed above, ref. TillMossakowski-PeterYim-MikeDean [7:54] * SIGMA (SUMO, MILO, ...) - still on CIM3.NET now, but will likely be migrated to AWS by mid-August 2014 * ESIP-Portal? - let's pursue having them join the OOR repository network [... PeterFox, NancyWiegand, LinePouchard, NancyWiegand, GaryBergCross] removing: (4E51) * ORNL-DAAC? ... being removed because this is no longer "open" (or openly accessible) * OOR-dev ... Peter: will be taken offline after this meeting * OOR-test ... Peter: will be taken offline after this meeting * OOR-sandbox ... Peter: will be taken offline in August, unless someone takes over the hosting of this [KenBaclawski?] [8:15] TillMossakowski: sorry, I have to go [8:18] PeterYim: [action-NancyWiegand] will work with PeterFox (or LinePouchard & PeterFox) to try to get the ESIP-Portal as part the federated OOR repository nodes (instances) - as in http://oor.net/index1.html - agreeing to be a node, supporting the OOR vision and mission, and permitting the ESIP-Portal to be addressed as (or something similar) [8:20] MichaelGruninger: (was away for about 15 minutes) ok i'm back ... [8:25] PeterYim: [action-MichaelGruninger] will draft something tangible regarding the IAOA-OOR working relationship for review, discussion and decision at the next admin and planning meeting (7/29?). [8:25] ToddSchneider: we need KenBaclawski to be at that meeting too. [8:27] PeterYim: next meeting: Tue 2014.07.22 (same time) - chair: TillMossakowski - topic: "Ontohub API" to be presented by TimReddehase (from the OntoHub team) [8:27] MichaelGruninger: I will potentially co-chair the July 29 session with Ken. The intended outcome of this meeting will be an explicit statement of the relationships between OOR and IAOA [8:28] PeterYim: -- session ended: 8:28am PDT -- ------