ppy/HC-05_google-hangout-chat_20130330a.txt [PDT] ------ Francesca Quattri joined group chat. doug foxvog joined group chat. Francesca Quattri 7:18 AM hear everybody Astrid Duque Ramos joined group chat. To list all available commands enter "/?". Bob Smith 7:25 AM OK - without audio - having problems mentally constructing the roadmap to Eval Onto Eval for a Fair Trade Ontology... Amanda Vizedom 7:26 AM Hi Bob Ali H 7:26 AM Bob, if you are having audio difficulty, we can have google hangout call a phone. Bob Smith 7:26 AM Requirements document seems first phase: are you talking about Reqmts Ali H 7:26 AM If you provide us with a number we can call you so you have audio. Amanda Vizedom 7:27 AM Can you hear but not speak, or no listening either? Bob Smith 7:27 AM 714 536 1084 +1 714-***-**84 joined the hangout. Ali H 7:27 AM Did you get a call? Bob Smith 7:28 AM Yes Ali H 7:30 AM Click on the "Share" button on the top right And add your email to the list of Editors and invite yourself to the document. This way, these documents will appear in your personal drive as well. Bob Smith 7:32 AM Share button looks like what?? PeterYim 7:32 AM @Doug - (re mute) great, thanks Amanda Vizedom 7:33 AM Everyone harvest away! Holler if you want live audio/video interaction again, otherwise we will check in again that way at noon EDT - I will also post this to soaphub chat room Ali H 7:37 AM Should we set a time at which we will break the harvesting and try to consolidate into a list of desiderata? Amanda Vizedom 7:42 AM Agreed: after check-in at noon EDT, we will switch to consolidation. Also agreed: for material added, links to source should should be included. Francesca Quattri 7:49 AM what do you mean by "organization" (pg 3)? Ali H 7:56 AM in the google doc ? Francesca Quattri 7:57 AM yup Ali H 7:57 AM that part is copied verbatim from the cited article above Denny Vrande?ci´c, “Ontology Evaluation” in Handbook of Ontologies (2009) Francesca Quattri 7:57 AM ok Ali H 7:58 AM but i believe it means that the ontology needs to be evaluated with respect to the organization context in which it is created so a given ontology is developed by organization(s); {org_1, ..., org_n} Amanda Vizedom 7:58 AM I'm noticing that not much has been brought in regarding identifying ontology requirements so far, so I'm going to focus on that for a little bit. Ali H 7:58 AM and these are criteria by which to evaluate how well it meets the org_i bits Amanda Vizedom 7:59 AM (it might help if folks not here what they are working on right now) not -> note David Whitten 8:01 AM I am reformatting long sentences into bullet lists so that each part of the sentence may be addressed separately. Bob Smith 8:01 AM Not sure what you want - I'm looking at Requirements - Scope and Domain; Upper vs. Domain Levels; Strategy; Competency Questions... Framing, as David is doing, some "Business Rules" out of the plain text Amanda Vizedom 8:04 AM OK. It would be good right now if we could put energy into making sure that we are actually including the important ideas that have come out of the summit; that's the harvesting idea. So, what I'm looking for is who is harvesting what - either from where, or focusing on what aspect. Francesca Quattri 8:04 AM there is a message by PavithraKenjige1 at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/summit_hackathon doug foxvog 8:05 AM I entered a list of ontology features and one of logic features (e.g.ones that determine which flavor of DL). Bob Smith 8:06 AM Share - Upper LEFT under File menu Amanda Vizedom 8:07 AM thank you! Francesca Quattri 8:20 AM Pg 20-43 on "constant": extremely useful but very detailed. What do you think, do we need all of it? Amanda Vizedom 8:25 AM Since we have Pavritha and Joel unable to join... what do people think about switching over to using the shared drive directly, and the hc-05 chat room, and foregoing the hangout audio/video at least for now? PeterYim 8:26 AM @Francesca - page numbers probably won't be very stable ... try citing section title (or something more stable) Amanda Vizedom 8:26 AM We could see whether the skype conference bridge is available later for check-in, or just stick with primarily textual communication. PeterYim 8:26 AM @Amanda & All - I agree Amanda Vizedom 8:30 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zyWuSHT2_POZaqZ3FIrqyy3q7VZVRnzXmOl9Hcz8apU/edit?usp=sharing Ali H 8:30 AM @ALL - we're moving to Skype / joinconference.