OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2008-11-07 (1O2D)
OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Fri 2008.11.07, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 UTC (1O2E)
Conference Call Details: (1O2F)
- Date: Friday, Nov. 7, 2008 (1O2G)
- Start Time: 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 6:00pm CEST / 17:00 UTC (1O2H)
- ref: World Clock (1O2I)
- Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours (1O2J)
- Dial-in Number: (1O2K)
- Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (1O2Y)
- view-only password: "ontolog" (1O2Z)
- if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts. (1O30)
- RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.) (1O31)
- This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_11_07 (1O32)
- Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (1O33)
Attendees (1O34)
- Attended: (1O35)
- Expecting: (1O36)
- (1O3C)
- ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ... (1O3D)
- Regrets: (1O3E)
Agenda Ideas: (1O3F)
please insert below (along with your name for follow-up purposes) (1O3G)
- review/recap on the OOR-NSF-07601 preliminary proposal - due 2008.11.13 (1O3H)
- confirming the working list and "quiet" wiki workspace subscriptions (1O3I)
- news from ISWC-2008 (1O3J)
- news from FOIS-2008 (1O3K)
- OOR-related-project status updates (1O3L)
- short term activity and action plans (1O3M)
- OOR-Ontolog panel series planning and update (1O3N)
- rebuilding momentum on the OOR project (1O3O)
- (please insert your suggested agenda items here) (1O3P)
Agenda & Proceedings (1O3Q)
1. Meeting called to order: (1O3R)
- KenBaclawski takes the chair and welcomed everyone (1O3S)
- PeterYim volunteers to take minutes of the meeting (1O3T)
- review and adopt agenda (1O3U)
2. Roll Call: (1O3V)
3. Status Review and Discussion: (1O3X)
- Urgent issues: (1O3Y)
- Logistics and Communications (1O3Z)
- populate - OOR/ActiveMemberContribution (1O40)
- Outstanding Issue review/update: (from last call) (1O41)
Suggested topics to be covered: (1O42)
- review/recap on the OOR-NSF-07601 preliminary proposal - due 2008.11.13 (1O43)
- confirming the working list and "quiet" wiki workspace subscriptions (1O44)
- news from ISWC-2008 (1O45)
- news from FOIS-2008 (1O46)
- OOR-related-project status updates (1O47)
- short term activity and action plans (1O48)
- OOR-Ontolog panel series planning and update (1O49)
- rebuilding momentum on the OOR project (1O4A)
- Progress updates and Discussions: - notes below are from the previous meeting; to be updated during this call! (1O4B)
- review/recap on the OOR-NSF-07601 preliminary proposal - ref. OpenOntologyRepository_Proposal/Nsf_07601 (1O4C)
- Bruce: will partcipate, but not as a co-lead (1O4D)
- organizationally Ken & Kate will co-lead; NEU to be the lead in this effort (1O4E)
- ref. earlier discussion & OpenOntologyRepository_Funding (1O4F)
- specifically: OpenOntologyRepository_Proposal/Nsf_07601 (1O4G)
- Ken will send out a sample for the PI / Key-personnel profile (1O4H)
- K will do a template for people's resumes and a proposal requirement matrix so we can check things off (1O4K)
- Bruce will share a template for the conflict-of-interest matrix (1O4L)
- Peter: for time being please use the [oor-forum] mailing list (caption it with [nsf07061-proposal]) as the working platform, and only use the Friday calls for sync-up purposes (don't wait till Friday to do the work) ... a separate (password protected) list - [oor-nsf07061] (to be updated to [oor-nsf07601]) - will be created for use by the proposal team (1O4M)
- Leo: suggest everyone writes up their own "activities" as well as "reasons and rationale (relative to their contribution)" that they will be contributing ... that should form the basis of the 7-page description, which is the key portion of the prelim-proposal (1O4N)
- Bruce: we need a vision and how we can see this work (repository) can be sustained (1O4O)
- Frank: sustainability plan will be important ... expecting real data collections (on top of metadata and ontology) ... pick two areas as examples? (not to be too narrow) (1O4P)
- Bruce: participating principal players (and organizations?) needs to be formally "on board" and in a specific capacity (1O4Q)
- For the prelim proposal (possibly not committed for the full proposal) - One principal (submitting) institution with the rest of us as collaborators (and possibly come in as contractors eventually) (1O4R)
- conflicts of interest - thesis-advisor-student relationship; co-authorship - 48 months; journal co-editors - 24 months; conference co-chairs - 24 months (1O4S)
- Frank: think of this as advertisement for the full proposal (1O4T)
- check with Lucy Nowell and Sylvia Spengler if there is any question (1O4U)
- PI and key personnel will need to provide their (max 3 pages) bio-sketch, current support, conflict-of-interest write-ups to KenBaclawski (1O4V)
- turn-around: Frank's estimate 2~3 months to get go ahead (if prelim proposal accepted) to move ahead with full proposal, which is due 15-May-2009 (1O4W)
- Ken will notify people of this collaborative effort and let all on the OOR team know, so that others could participate - done! ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2008-10/msg00005.html (1O4X)
- those who could make significant contribution to the effort and want to participate in this joint proposal should make known their intent (1O4Y)
- (candidate participants') should send in a short write-up of their thoughts on how this proposal could go, their vision, their contributions, the activities, personnel involved, etc. (1O4Z)
- send the writeup to KenBaclawski & K_Goodier) by end-of-day Wed 2008.10.15, so they can be synthesized by Thursday (and come back to us with a strawman for the approach and content of our joint proposal) which we could, then, discuss, as a team at the next conference call on Fri 2008.10.17 (1O50)
- note that NSF US participants only - we should include this too when letting the rest of the OOR-team know (1O51)
- Peter will create a separate archived mailing list (with a password protected archive) - [oor-nsf07061] - for this project (-done / ppy 2008.10.14-10:00am PDT) - (to be updated to [oor-nsf07601]) (1O52)
- this list will be exclusively for those who are involved in the joint proposal; the archive will be password protected; and will have a "team only" caption; the list archives is not intended to be opened to public access now or in the future (1O53)
- further proposal work will be transacted on this list; things that can be shared with the rest of the oor-team will be posted by the co-leads to the wiki or the [oor-forum] list (1O54)
- personal and confidential information (like salaries, etc.) should not even be posted to the list (despite the fact that the archives is password protected) and should only be sent to KenBaclawski alone (as team co-lead), who will be doing the synthesis and compilations on behalf of the proposal team. (1O55)
- turns out the solicitation number should have been NSF 07-601 (wrongly shown as 07-061 previously) ... therefore all reference (e.g. mailing list, etc.) need to be re-done to reflect a [oor-nsf07601] (or similar) label! =ppy/2008.10.15-17:25 (1O56)
- done! =ppy/2008.10.17-0800 PDT (1O57)
- 2008.10.17: confirming the players and working out the vision and approach for the NSF-07601 grant proposal (1O58)
- those who have sent in their intents: (1O59)
- KenBaclawski (1O5A)
- K_Goodier (1O5B)
- MikeDean ("co-PI?" now officially "co-PI") ... Bruce: each sub organization sends in a co-PI (1O5C)
- PeterYim (1O5D)
- LeoObrst (1O5E)
- BruceBargmeyer (1O5F)
- NeilSarkar - (not present today because he is getting married) (1O5G)
- TomWheeler (a colleague of K's, but separate company) - Ken: Tom sent in a very brief statement ... K: he can bring data modeling expertise to this team (1O5H)
- MarkMusen (1O5I)
- MichelleRaymond: want to play a support role, but not as a key personnel (1O5J)
- JohnGraybeal: willing to review, before deciding on participation (1O5K)
- DeborahMcGuinness: willing to review, before deciding on participation, may have conflict of interest (1O5L)
- SteveRay ... mentioned he was sending something to Ken, but Ken didn't seem to have received it (1O5M)
- those who have sent in their intents: (1O59)
- Discussion (2008.10.17) (1O5N)
- K will update the template and will circulate (1O5O)
- minor question ref increase to 20 pages from 7 (need to confirm whether that applies to the prelim proposal as well) (1O5P)
- Bruce: sending out a reference template to capture COI (conflict of interest) information (1O5Q)
- Peter: [oor-nsf07601] team workspace now in working order (1O5R)
- Bruce: need to double check with Frank on whether we can keep him on the list (or whether we have to take him off the list) (1O5S)
- on project vision and approach: (1O5T)
- Bruce: refer to what NIH-NCI has done ... caBIG (bioinformatics grid) ... node on a grid ... sustainability based on people's self interest (1O5U)
- Neil & Ken: federated ... similar to the above (1O5V)
- Mark: the domain (NSF's ... not NIH's) (1O5W)
- Peter: ontologies as the next generation standards ... and hence the need for an OOR (1O5X)
- Mark: for this nsf solicitation, the emphasis is on the data ... (1O5Y)
- the data collection we will be picking (1O5Z)
- Neil: biological, environmental, ... (encyclopedia of life, ...) (1O60)
- John: data collections? ... not immediately ... oceanographic, possibly (1O61)
- Mark: biomedical content (the bio and not medical contents) ... also developing technogy here not funded by other programs (to avoid conflicts) (1O62)
- Timeline: (1O63)
- hard deadline on deciding on who's on the prelim proposal team by close-of-business Monday Oct-20 (1O64)
- John needs to talk to Ken and K - later today (1O65)
- need to clarify positions of DeborahMcGuinness, SteveRay and possibly MichelleRaymond (1O66)
- we'll try to tie down all key concept of our proposal by Thu Oct-23 (before some of the team members leave town for ISWC and FOIS) (1O67)
- K & Ken will help do most of the writing after that (1O68)
- the rest of the team to review and provide feedback (1O69)
- hard deadline on deciding on who's on the prelim proposal team by close-of-business Monday Oct-20 (1O64)
- the [oor-nsf07601] mailing list will be the prime platform for project communications ... the weekly conference calls should only be used to help sync everyone up. (1O6A)
- Discussion (today: 2008.11.07) (1O6B)
- Ken: prelim proposal writing completed, now under review by NEU/DSPA and is expected to be submitted on/before the deadline date (1O6C)
- confirming the working list and "quiet" wiki workspace subscriptions (1O3I)
- shared understanding on how to get a new participant involved and onto the team (1O94)
- Ken, given that its always low probability to get awarded, let's consider making more proposals (1O95)
- for example: NSF 08-575 large due Nov-28 small due Dec-17 - this is science, not infrastructure; a real proposal too, and not just a prelim proposal (1O96)
- Ken & K to continue to lead our next effort to do the proposal for a NSF 08-575 large proposal (1O97)
- actual deadline end-of-day Nov-19 (needs to go into NEU/DSPA for review) (1O98)
- since this is a full proposal, we will need full work descriptions from everyone, and budgets too (both of which weren't needed before) (1O99)
- Peter and K will set up the work environment to support this proposal project (1O9A)
- Michelle: possibility of Honey joining in ... we'll set a deadline of Tue Nov-11 as the point to decide whether they are in or out (1O9B)
- news from ISWC-2008 (1O3J)
- conference program - see: http://iswc2008.semanticweb.org/program/schedule/ (1O8L)
- MikeDean and PeterYim is planning to give a "lightning-talk" on OOR at ISWC-2008 (Karlsruhe, 2008.10.30) - slide (1O6I)
- Peter also gave a lightning "Intro to Ontolog" talk before that - slide (1O8M)
- Highlights: (1O9E)
- StefanDecker's talk about the "semantic web" initiative not getting a convincing enough message together properly yet (1O9F)
- Semantic Web Challenge and Billion Triples Challenges - with great entries and prizes (1O9G)
- note also a VOCAMP (http://vocamp.org/wiki) effort, for domain people to come together to build their vocabulary (ontology?), that PeterMika is pushing ... would be great to team up with him on that (1O9H)
- news from FOIS-2008 (1O3K)
- details at: http://fois08.dfki.de/joomla/ (1O8N)
- Highlights: (1O8O)
- (for those who might be interested) pics I took are at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/pic/fois2008_Saarbruecken_Nov-2008/ (1O8R)
- OOR-Ontolog panel series planning and update (1O6F)
- PaulBuitelaar will be putting together a European panel of those engaging in ontology repository and related work in Europe on Thu 2008.12.04 - please mark your calendars and come join (1O6G)
- OOR-related-project status updates: (1O6E)
- short term activity and action plans (1O3M)
- Peter: a few strategic initiatives for Ontolog to be discussed at next Thursday's (Nov-13) planning call - please mark your calendars and come join (1O9I)
4. New Issues: (1O6J)
5. Any Other Business: (1O6K)
- everyone expressed their vote of thanks and applauds to Ken and K for their leadership and great work in the nsf07601 preliminary proposal effort. (1O9K)
6. Action items: (1O6L)
7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn: (1O6Q)
- Next Meeting: (1O6R)
- next OOR-team meeting will be on Fri 2008.11.14 - 1.0 Hr. starting 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CEST / 17:00 UTC (1O6S)
- please refer to developing details on the session page at: OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_11_14 (1O6T)
- Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC (1O6U)
- next OOR-team meeting will be on Fri 2008.11.14 - 1.0 Hr. starting 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CEST / 17:00 UTC (1O6S)
- Call adjourned at: 10:16 am PST (1O6V)
-- notes taken by: PeterYim / 2008.11.07-10:30am PST All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings. (1O6W)
Resources (1O6X)
- homepage - OpenOntologyRepository - http://OpenOntologyRepository.org (1O6Y)
- proceedings of our previous meetings (1O6Z)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23 (1O70)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13 (1O71)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05 (1O72)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14 (1O73)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21 (1O74)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04 (1O75)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_18 (1O76)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_09 (1O77)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_23 (1O78)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_06 (1O79)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_20 (1O7A)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_07_11 (1O7B)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_07_25 (1O7C)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_08_08 (1O7D)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_08_29 (1O7E)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_09_05 (1O7F)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_09_19 (1O7G)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_03 (1O7H)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_10 (1O7I)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_10_17 (1O7J)
- OOR Charter - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories. (1O7K)
- "Ontology Repository" Definition - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed" (1O7L)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope - documentation related to this OOR initiative's mission, charter, objectives, goals, terms of reference, definitions, scope, ... etc. (1O7M)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement - documentation related to the requirements of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative. (1O7N)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach - documentation related to this OOR initiative's approach, and the process we will be using. (1O7P)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture - documentation related to the architecture of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative. (1O7Q)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan (1O7R)
- OOR/ActiveMemberContribution (1O7S)
- [ oor-forum ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/ (1O7T)
- the four joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussions: (1O7U)
- 2008_02_28 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Ontology Registry and Repository Technology & Infrastructure Landscape" - Co-chairs: LeoObrst & FrankOlken; Panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MikeDean, MarkMusen, FarrukhNajmi & PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2008_02_28 T (1O7V)
- 2008_03_27 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-1" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: WilliamBug, EvanWallace, JohnLMcCarthy, KenBaclawski, PeterBenson & RexBrooks - ConferenceCall_2008_03_27 T (1O7W)
- 2008_04_03 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-2" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: DougLenat, DekeSmith, MarciaZeng, DeniseBedford, PatHayes, MalaMehrotra & RobRaskin - ConferenceCall_2008_04_03 T (1O7X)
- 2008_04_10 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR" - Co-chairs: BarrySmith & MichaelGruninger; Panelists: MichaelGruninger, PeterHaase, NatashaNoy & ElisaKendall - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10 T (1O7Y)
- the OOR-dev: Synergies & Gaps panel session: (1O7Z)
- 2008_08_22 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground: Identifying Synergies & Gaps" (Take-1) - Chair: LeoObrst; Panelists: MikeDean, MarkMusen, LiDing, BruceBargmeyer & BillAndersen - ConferenceCall_2008_08_22 T (1O80)
- OntologySummit2008 homepage (1O81)
- OntologySummit2008_Communique (1O82)
- OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda (1O83)
- The OOR Project Presentation (delivered at the OntologySummit2008 face-to-face workshop) (1O84)
- [ ontology-summit ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ (1O85)
- Our key content pages: (1O86)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope (1O87)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Organization (1O88)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Process (1O89)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Policy (1O8A)
- OpenOntologyRepository_IPR (1O8B)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement (1O8C)
- OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases (1O8D)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture (1O8E)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach (1O8F)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Roadmap (1O8G)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan (1O8H)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Funding (1O8I)
- OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchIssues (1O8J)
- OOR Project site at SemWebCentral - http://oor.projects.semwebcentral.org (1O8K)