OntologySummit2012: Session-11 - Thu 2012-03-22 (37P6)
Summit Theme: OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems" (37P7)
Track (1&2) Title: Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering (37P8)
Track Co-champions: Dr. MatthewWest and Dr. HensonGraves (37PA)
Session Topic: Big Systems: The ontology of System Components, and System Modelling Language Requirements (37P9)
Session Chair: Dr. MatthewWest ... intro-slides (37PB)
Panel Briefings from: (37WW)
- Dr. NicolaGuarino (IAOA; ISTC-CNR LOA, Italy) - "Functional roles and their realizations" - slides (37PC)
- Mr. ChrisPartridge (BORO Solutions, UK) - " 'System Components' as a litmus test for your ontological architecture " - slides (37PD)
- Mr. DavidLeal (CAESAR Systems, UK), presented by Dr. MatthewWest (Information Junction, UK) - "Some thoughts on requirements for languages in engineering" - slides (37PE)
- Dr. HensonGraves (Algos Associates, US) - "Using Ontology to Meet Big Systems Challenges" - slides (37WT)
- Abstract (37PG)
- Agenda (37PH)
- Prepared presentation material (slides) can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below: (37PI)
- [ 0-Chair ] . [ 1-Guarino ] . [ 2-Patridge ] . [ 3-Leal (West) ] . [ 4-Graves ] (37PJ)
- [ Audio recording of the session] ... (coming!) (37PK)
- transcript of the online chat during the session ... (raw transcript is now online; cleaned-up version coming!) (37PL)
- Additional Resources (37PM)
Conference Call Details (37PN)
- Date: Thursday, 22-Mar-2012 (37PO)
- Start Time: 9:30am PDT / 12:30pm EDT / 5:30pm CET / 16:30 UTC (37PP)
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Attendees (37QF)
- Attended: (37QG)
- MatthewWest (chair) (37X5)
- NicolaGuarino (37X6)
- ChrisPartridge (37X7)
- HensonGraves (37X8)
- PeterYim (37X9)
- AliHashemi (37XA)
- AmandaVizedom (37XB)
- AnatolyLevenchuk (37XC)
- BobSchloss (37XD)
- ChristopherSpottiswoode (37XE)
- DavidFlater (37XF)
- DougFoxvog (37XG)
- ElizabethFlorescu (37XH)
- EricChan (37XI)
- ErnieLucier (37XJ)
- FrankOlken (37XK)
- GaryBergCross (37XL)
- HenryBroodney (37XM)
- JackRing (37XN)
- JeffreyWallk (37XO)
- JimKirby (37XP)
- JoelBender (37XQ)
- JohnBilmanis (37XR)
- KathyEllis (37XS)
- LinePouchard (37XT)
- MatthewKHettinger (37XU)
- PavithraKenjige (37Y8)
- PercySalas (37YB)
- RafaelPena (37Y9)
- RamSriram (37XV)
- RexBrooks (37XW)
- SimonSpero (37XX)
- SteveRay (37XY)
- TerryLongstreth (37XZ)
- ToddSchneider (37Y0)
- TomTinsley (37Y1)
- VictorAgroskin (37Y2)
- ... (37QH)
- FOUGHALI (37YA)
- Expecting: (37QI)
- MatthewWest (chair) (37QJ)
- HensonGraves (37QK)
- NicolaGuarino (37QL)
- ChrisPartridge (37QM)
- DavidLeal (in absentia) (37T7)
- PeterYim (37QN)
- JoelBender (37SU)
- JohnBilmanis (37T8)
- HasanSayani (will have to join late) (37T9)
- BobSchloss (37TG)
- DouglasRandall (37TH)
- DavidFlater (37TU)
- TerryLongstreth (37TV)
- MatthewKHettinger (37U2)
- ChristopherSpottiswoode (37WS)
- JeffreyWallk (37WU)
- TomTinsley (37WV)
- AmandaVizedom (37WX)
- PavithraKenjige (37X0)
- GaryBergCross (Gary Berg-Cross) (37X3)
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Abstract: (37QT)
Big Systems: The ontology of System Components, and System Modelling Language Requirements (37QU)
This is our 7th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Ontology for Big Systems." The event today is our 11th virtual session. (37QV)
The principal goal of the summit is to bring together and foster collaboration between the ontology community, systems community, and stakeholders of some of "big systems." Together, the summit participants will exchange ideas on how ontological analysis and ontology engineering might make a difference, when applied in these "big systems." We will aim towards producing a series of recommendations describing how ontologies can create an impact; as well as providing illustrations where these techniques have been, or could be, applied in domains such as bioinformatics, electronic health records, intelligence, the smart electrical grid, manufacturing and supply chains, earth and environmental, e-science, cyberphysical systems and e-government. As is traditional with the Ontology Summit series, the results will be captured in the form of a communiqué, with expanded supporting material provided on the web. (37QW)
This "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering" Track aims to bring key challenges to light with large-scale systems and systems of systems for ontology and identify where solutions exist, where the problems require significant research, and where we can work towards solutions as part of this summit. The areas to be considered include: (37QX)
- working with and integrating the results of models using multiple modeling languages, (37QY)
- the systems lifecycle and the issues of sharing data within and between lifecycle stages, (37QZ)
- the difference between requirements and the delivered system, (37R0)
- systems of systems vs systems, (37R1)
- the nature of system components and the difference between these and the parts installed, (37R2)
- the connections between system components and what they carry, (37R3)
- the specific role of social, legal, and value-related aspects in systems architecture, modeling and design (37R4)
- systems behaviour, (37R5)
- federated systems both as a big system, and as a solution to some of the challenges, (37R6)
- principles of how to construct good quality reusable models (ontologies), (37R7)
- the management of ontologies of and for large systems and the challenges in developing and maintaining them. (37R8)
Rather than trying to continue the exploration of issues and develop new territories, we shall make a synthesis on what has transpired in the discourse around the issues covered by tracks 1 & 2. In this session, we will focus on two topical areas in particular: (37R9)
- 1. have a discussion on system components ... and, (37RA)
- 2. have a discussion on the requirements for engineering modelling languages, and the shortcomings of what is available. (37RB)
More details about this Summit at: OntologySummit2012 (home page for the summit) (37RC)
Agenda: (37RD)
Ontology Summit 2012 - Panel Session-11 (37RE)
- Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (37RF)
- 1. Opening (chair) - MatthewWest [10 min.] ... [ slides ] (37RG)
- 2. Panel briefings - NicolaGuarino, ChrisPartridge, DavidLeal (presented by MatthewWest), HensonGraves - [20 min. each] (37RH)
- 3. Q & A and open discussion [All: ~30 min.] - chair -- please refer to process above (37RI)
- 4. Wrap-up / Announcements - (chair) (37RJ)
Proceedings: (37RK)
Please refer to the [ above] (37RL)
IM Chat Transcript captured during the session: (37RM)
see raw transcript here. (37RN)
(for better clarity, the version below is a [ re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript].) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit. (37RO)
-- begin in-session chat-transcript -- (37RP)
-- end of in-session chat-transcript -- (37RQ)
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Additional Resources: (37S5)
- Homepage of OntologySummit2012 (37S6)
- OntologySummit2012 Launch Event - ConferenceCall_2012_01_12 (37S7)
- OntologySummit2012 session-02 "Ontology for Big Systems: What's In Scope" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_19 (37S8)
- OntologySummit2012 session-03 "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - I : The Systems and Systems Engineering Problem Space" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_26 (37S9)
- OntologySummit2012 session-04 - "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - II : a response to the problem space and setting out the working program for this Summit Track" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_02 (37SA)
- OntologySummit2012 session-05 - "Meeting Big Data Challenges through Ontology - I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_09 (37SB)
- OntologySummit2012 session-06 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications – I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_16 (37SC)
- OntologySummit2012 session-07 - "Implementing Ontology Quality Measures in Big Systems Engineering" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_23 (37SD)
- OntologySummit2012 session-08 - "Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_01 (37SE)
- OntologySummit2012 session-09 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications – II" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_08 (37SF)
- OntologySummit2012 session-10 - "Big Data Developing Challenges" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_15 (37SG)
- Wiki pages devoted to Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering (37SH)
- [ontology-summit] mailing list archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ (37SK)
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