Joint OpenOntologyRepository-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion Session - Thu 10-April-2008 (1D3J)
- Subject: Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR (1D3K)
- Session co-chairs: (1D3L)
- Professor Barry Smith (NCOR; University at Baffalo) & (1D3M)
- Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) (1D3N)
- Panelists: (1D3O)
- Professor MichaelGruninger (U of Toronto) - "A Framework for an Ontology of Ontologies" (1D3P)
- Dr. PeterHaase (AIFB, U of Karlsruhe; Project NeOn) - "The OMV Ontology Metadata Vocabulary" (1D3Q)
- Dr. NatashaNoy (Stanford-BMIR) - "Ontology metadata in NCBO's BioPortal" (1D3R)
- Ms. ElisaKendall (OMG; Sandpiper Software) - "Metadata Support for OMG's Emerging Ontology and Vocabulary Management Initiative" (1D3S)
- Archive: (1D3T)
Conference Call Details (1D3W)
- Date: Thursday, April 10, 2008 (1D3X)
- Start Time: 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 UTC (1D3Y)
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- Acknowledgment: thanks to BruceBargmeyer, LeoObrst, MarkMusen, MichelleRaymond and PeterYim for their recommendations and help in putting together the panel. (1D4Q)
Attendees (1D4R)
- Attended: (1D4S)
- Expected Attendees: (1CF6)
- BarrySmith (1CF7)
- MichaelGruninger (1CF8)
- ElisaKendall (1CF9)
- PeterHaase (1CFA)
- NatashaNoy (1CFB)
- PeterYim (1CFC)
- RickMurphy (1CFJ)
- RobertArp (1CG6)
- DeborahMacPherson (1CGG)
- ThomasBrunner (1CGH)
- ToddSchneider (1CGI)
- Yung S Kim (Boeing) (1CGJ)
- RobertoRocha (1CGM)
- CarlMattocks (1CGV)
- Elgar Pichler (Astra Zeneca) (1D7M)
- ArturoSanchez (1DOH)
- DougHolmes (1DOJ)
- SuziLewis (1DOK)
- FarrukhNajmi (1DOL)
- AntoinetteArsic (1DON)
- AnnWrightson (1DOO)
- Curtis Steward (Goodrich) (1DOP)
- (1CFD)
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Background (1D4U)
Two parallel initiatives are ongoing in the community, revolving around the theme of "Open Ontology Repository". On the one hand, a working group under the auspices of the OpenOntologyRepository Initiative, and on the other, the discourse (and essentially a discussion group that culminates in a two-day workshop) conducted as the main focus for OntologySummit2008. (1D4V)
It is at the intersection of these two initiatives that this panel discussion session is being held. The OpenOntologyRepository team is taking the opportunity to have some of its members who are bringing technology and infrastructure to the table to present them side-by-side, and to discuss how these can all fit nicely together. The OntologySummit2008 folks, on the other hand would want to take the opportunity to survey (at least a subset of) the technology & infrastructure landscape to gain insight into the state-of-art in Ontology Registry and Repository. (1D4W)
Besides hearing from the panelists, we are setting aside ample time after their briefings, for some good Q&A and discussions among all who are participating in this session. (1D4X)
Refer to details at the respective project homepages of the two initiatives at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository . & . http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2008 (1D4Y)
Agenda & Proceedings: (1D4Z)
- This is the last of the four OOR-panel discussion sessions taht has been scheduled to explore various aspects of an "Open Ontology Repository (OOR)." In this session, the focus will be on the incorporation and development of an Ontology of Ontologies that would be of value (probably crucial) to an well designed and implemented OOR. Again, We are attemptig to bring together some of the world's top experts who has done related work to participate in this panel discussion sessions. Besides hearing from the panelists, we are setting aside ample time (~45 minutes) after their briefings, for some good Q&A and discussions among all who will be participating in this sessions. (1D50)
- Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call. (1D51)
- Agenda: (1D52)
- 1. Opening by the Session co-chairs - BarrySmith / MichaelGruninger (1D53)
- 2. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (15~20 minutes) - All - we'll skip this if we have more than 25 participants (in which case, it will be best if members try to update their namesake pages on this wiki prior to the call so that everyone can get to know who's who more easily.) (1D54)
- 3. Panelists' Briefings (up to 20 min. each) - MichaelGruninger, PeterHaase, NatashaNoy and ElisaKendall (1D55)
- 5. Q & A and Open discussion by all participants (45~60 minutes) - All, via the conference call and the IM chat session. (1D56)
- 6. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up-actions by the Session co-chairs - BarrySmith / MichaelGruninger (1D57)
Topic: Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR (1D58)
Panelists' Presentation Titles and Abstracts: (1D5A)
A Framework for an Ontology of Ontologies - MichaelGruninger (1D5D)
Under the appellation of "ontology" are found many different types of artifacts created and used in different communities to represent entities and their relationships for a wide range of purposes.The Ontology Summit 2007 "Ontology, Taxonomy, Folksonomy: Understanding the Distinctions," was an attempt to bring together various communities having a different understanding of what is an ontology, and to foster dialog and cooperation among these communities. (1DC7)
The results of the Summit identified a limited number of key dimensions along which ontologies can be characterized and to provide operational definitions for these dimensions. (1DOD)
This talk will give an overview of the framework that is constituted by these dimensions. (1DOE)
The OMV Ontology Metadata Vocabulary - PeterHaase (1D5E)
In my presentation I will talk about OMV, a proposal for an Ontology Metadata Vocabulary that has been originally developed within the Knowledge Web project and is now maintained by the OMV consortium. I will explain the coverage and scope of OMV, some basic design rationales as well as applications. In particular, I will talk about uses and tool support for OMV developed in the NeOn project. (1DC8)
Ontology metadata in NCBO's BioPortal - NatashaNoy (1D5F)
The National Center for Biomedical Ontology (NCBO; see http://bioontology.org) is developing BioPortal, an open-source repository of ontologies, terminologies, and thesauri of importance in biomedicine. BioPortal is accessible at http://bioportal.bioontology.org. Users can access the BioPortal content interactively via their Web browsers or programmatically via Web services. An alpha version of the next BioPortal release, which is available at http://alpha.bioontology.org supports facilities for visualizing ontologies, for creating mappings between ontologies, and for adding "marginal notes" through which the user community can comment on ontologies and discuss modeling decisions. (1DC9)
I will discuss the metadata requirements for BioPortal and our approach for representing metadata about ontologies, maintaining the metadata as the ontologies evolve, and encouraging users to provide metadata both on the ontologies that they author and the ones that they use in their own projects. (1DCA)
Metadata Support for OMG's Emerging Ontology and Vocabulary Management Initiative - ElisaKendall (1DHK)
As presented in EvanWallace's talk in the OOR-Panel Session (ConferenceCall_2008_03_27), the OMG is exploring what it would take to host a repository to manage standard ontologies and vocabularies. An initial request for information was issued at the recent OMG Technical Meeting in Washington, DC. (http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?ontology/08-03-02.pdf, Ontology and Vocabulary Management RFI). Searchable metadata is a critical aspect of this anticipated facility, and as such, we are actively investigating and seeking input on ontology management metadata. (1DHL)
Potential starting points include, but are certainly not limited to: the OMV Ontology Metadata Vocabulary augmented via lessons learned in developing the BioPortal, current work in the ISO JTC1 SC32 WG2 effort to update the ISO 11179 Metadata Registry standard to include concept systems, vocabularies, and ontologies, and lessons learned in provenance and trust research by Dr. DeborahMcGuinness and her colleagues. I will briefly present some of the requirements and challenges we have identified for a successful ontology management capability at OMG, and look forward to active discussion and input from this community. (1DHM)
( more details coming! ) - see: developing details (1D5B)
Resources (1D5J)
- Our panel's prepared slides can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below: (1D5K)
- [ 0-Chair ] - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2008-04-10_Ontology-of-Ontologies/Ontology-of-Ontologies-Panel--BarrySmith-MichaelGruninger_20080410.ppt (1D5L)
- [ 1-Gruninger ] - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2008-04-10_Ontology-of-Ontologies/Framework-for-Ontologies--MichaelGruninger_20080410.pdf (1D5M)
- [ 2-Haase ] http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2008-04-10_Ontology-of-Ontologies/OMV-Ontology-Summit--PeterHaase_20080410.pdf (1D5N)
- [ 3-Noy ] - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OpenOntologyRepository/2008-04-10_Ontology-of-Ontologies/Ontology-Metadata-in-BioPortal--NatashaNoy_20080410.ppt (1D5O)
- [ [ 4-Kendall] ] (1D5P)
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