OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2011_08_05 (2W14)
Conference Call Details: (2W15)
- Date: Friday, 5-Aug-2011 (2W16)
- Start time: 6:00am PDT / 9:00am EDT / 3:00pm CEST / 2:00pm BST / 13:00 UTC (2W1O)
- ref: World Clock (2W1P)
- Expected Duration: ~1.5 Hours (2W17)
- Dial-in Number: (2W1N)
- In-session chat-room url: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oor_20110805 (2W4T)
- RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated, ... or simply just by adding yourself to the "Expected Attendee" list below (if you are a member of the team.) (2W4U)
- This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_08_05 (2W4V)
- Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (2W4W)
Attendees (2W18)
- Attended: (2W19)
- Expecting: (2W1B)
- (2W1U)
- ... if you are coming to the session, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above; or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ... (2W1V)
Agenda Ideas (2W1E)
(Please insert your agenda ideas below ...) (2W1F)
- status update on the OOR Logo quest (2W1G)
- Review status: the upgraded OOR_SandBox - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (2W1H)
- Discussion: the newly adopted dual-track OOR approach (2W1J)
- OOR or joint OOR events planning, for the Fall and beyond (2W2J)
- Revisiting regular meeting time (day-of-week, and starting-time) (2W2K)
- ... (2W1L)
Agenda & Proceedings (2W1M)
- audio recording of the session [ 1:24:47 ; mp3 ; 9.70MB ] (2W4X)
- chat-transcript of this session (2WBT)
1. Meeting called to order: (2W4Y)
- LeoObrst takes the chair and welcome everyone (2W4Z)
- review and adopt agenda (2W50)
- PeterYim volunteered to take notes (2W51)
2. Roll Call: (2W52)
- welcome and intro of new member(s) (as needed) (2W54)
3. Status Review and Discussion: (2W55)
- Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list (2W56)
Key items for review and discussion today: (2W58)
- status update on the OOR Logo quest (2WAQ)
- Review status: the upgraded OOR_SandBox - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (2WAR)
- for now certain behaviors seem strange - Ken and Mike will look into the issues (2WB5)
- Ken: a lot of it is with the disabling of some hard coded portions (like the swf codes) now (2WB6)
- "visualize" not working now ... Ken will try re-enabling access to U of Victoria (which serves the visualization) (2WB7)
- for now certain behaviors seem strange - Ken and Mike will look into the issues (2WB5)
- updating "categories" (2WAS)
- Peter: the ICOM people suggests adding the categories of "standards" and "collaboration" (the latter probably belongs under "Cultural" (2WB8)
- Mike: something like Dublin Core should go under "metadata" - we are adding this category, "process" too (2WBC)
- discussed - see updated "category" list at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_08_05#nid2W6B (2WBI)
- one can select multiple categories by doing a "ctrl-click" (or "cmd" for Mac users) (2WB9)
- Ken: the software stores "categories" in an OMV ontology, and support a hierarchy of nested categories (2WBD)
- Mike: there is a GUI interface for adding categories (2WBE)
- All: we probably want to leave it simple (one level) and support "addition of categories" on demand (2WBJ)
- Todd: For some categories, e.g., science, subcategories will be needed. Since the provided listing is linear, subcategories could be listed as pairs or triples: Science, Science - Biology, Science-Physics, Science-Physics-Gravitation, etc. (2WC0)
- Leo: we might consider adopting some standard categorization, like what the Library of Congress has put out (maybe not the entire hierarchy, but only the very upper level(s) (2WBK)
- soliciting content (ask people to upload their ontologies again) (2WAT)
- Discussion: the newly adopted dual-track OOR approach (2WAU)
- action planning (2WAV)
- we run (for now) 2 instances - a sandbox instance[1] on the OOR-01 vm, and an experimental instance[2] on the OOR-02 vm (2WBN)
- [1] this will be a straight forward, and updated BioPortal code install, with customization only for: the logo, the IP / License statement, categories. (2WBO)
- [2] this will be the instance we use to continue the current work of further development in Architecture, API, metadata, CL support, etc. (2WBP)
- consensus: both instances would use the same database (so ontologies uploaded are accessible by both instances, and are obviously "in sync" ... saving us the need to "import" as we ad discussed at the last meeting) (2WBQ)
- Peter: the next things to push is to have "gatekeeping" in place so we can stand up a "production" OOR (2WBR)
- we run (for now) 2 instances - a sandbox instance[1] on the OOR-01 vm, and an experimental instance[2] on the OOR-02 vm (2WBN)
- scheduling meeting with the NCBO team (2WAW)
- action planning (2WAV)
- OOR or joint OOR events planning, for the Fall and beyond (2WAX)
- Revisiting regular meeting time (day-of-week, and starting-time) (2WAY)
(unless specifically addressed) items below are from the previous meeting(s) and will be updated as we proceed with this meeting. (2W5T)
- Status and action review: upgrade to OOR-sandbox - http://oor-01.cim3.net or http://sandbox.oor.net (2W5U)
- workplan (from previous calls): (2W5V)
- prepare vm image (2W62)
- vm image available for download - ETA (2W63)
- TimDarr offer to help, some from his team of 8~10 people might get involved, most of the necessary skill sets in java programming, linux sysadmin, vmware, etc. are available (2W64)
- (from 2011.05.06) ref input from PaulAlexander, BioPortal is now delivered as an "appliance" - in a vm image (2W65)
- Anyhow, we need to install from the code - code from the semwebcentral oor code repository (2W69)
- it is suggested that a conf call between us and the Stanford folks (with, say, TejasParikh, KenBaclawski, MikeDean with PaulAlexander, AlexSkrenchuk, ...) be done ASAP so that we can learn from them they key changes in the recent versions and how the installation is different now [ Ken will arrange ] (2W6A)
- Category list (based on MikeDean's list): (updated 2011.08.05) (2W6B)
- Upper Ontologies (2W6C)
- Standards (for example, Measurement) (2W6D)
- Science (for example, Biomedical) (2W6E)
- Financial (2W6F)
- Government (2W6G)
- Cultural (for example, Social Networking, People) (2W6H)
- Geospatial (2W6I)
- Commercial (2W6J)
- Literature (2W6K)
- Technology (2W6L)
- Provenance (2W6M)
- Defence (2W6N)
- Metadata (for example, OMV, Dublin Core) (2WBU)
- Process (for example, PSL) (2WBV)
- Other (2WBW)
- Status and action review: OOR-dev box - http://oor-02.cim3.net (2W6O)
- OOR Logo - ref. OOR_Logo_Candidates - updated process (ref. previous process) (2W6P)
- Getting us to a stage when members can contribute code ... how, ETA? (2W6Q)
- (discussion 2011.05.06): (2W6R)
- an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all (2W6S)
- All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively (2W6T)
- in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!? (2W6U)
- (discussion 2011.06.03)'' ... (2W6V)
- (discussion 2011.05.06): (2W6R)
- getting the OOR code repository at semwebcentral started (for real!) - http://oor.semwebcentral.org/ (2W6W)
- OOR_SandBox - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies) (2W6X)
- OOR code-repository and re-assessing the 'fork' (what does that mean?) [MikeDean, KenBaclawski, et al.] (2W6Y)
- 2011.02.18 / KenBaclawski - have sent question to PaulAlexander about it (2W6Z)
- categories - ref. MikeDean's msg - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/2011-02/msg00012.html (2W70)
- 2011.02.18: *Important Note* - we will start afresh on the OOR sandbox content (i.e. uploaded ontologies) after the update install - everyone who has uploaded ontologies so far should note (2W71)
- those who are "using" the OOR sandbox content now, should note down the ontologies they need, and may need to contact the authors to upload them again if they don't show up. (presumably, those content relating to biomedicine, previously federated from BioPortal, will not be there any more, at least not automatically.) Also, links to ontologies or elements within ontologies established previously will no longer be valid after the content gets re-populated - Ken will make a post about this on [oor-forum] (2W72)
- workplan: (2W73)
- prepare vm image (2W7B)
- vm image available for download - ETA (2W7C)
- TimDarr offer to help, some from his team of 8~10 people might get involved, most of the necessary skill sets in java programming, linux sysadmin, vmware, etc. are available (2W7D)
- Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... what's still needed, ETA? (2W7E)
- (discussion 2011.06.03)'' ... (2W7F)
- Soliciting content (getting people to upload ontologies) (2W7G)
- staged events planning (2W7H)
- Architecture & API - VII workshop - Fri 2011.07.29 ... afterwards? (2W7I)
- Metadata - IV workshop - to be scheduled - date? (2W7J)
- Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontology and Standards" mini-series (2W7K)
- ISO 19763 with ElisaKendall and EvanWallace - to be scheduled [MichaelGruninger] (2W7L)
- ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" - to be scheduled [JohnBateman] (2W7M)
- ... more (2W7N)
- updates and plans on BioPortal; what does that mean for OOR - date? - [KenBaclawski] (2W7O)
- OOR Metadata-IV workshop - ? - Chair: MichaelGruninger (2W7P)
- FactGuru incorporation & integration? (2W7Q)
- more on SIO ...? (2W7R)
- new activities planning (2W7S)
4. Member activities updates: (2W7T)
- Review: members and OOR-related activities (2W7U)
- OOR-sandbox status (2W7V)
- code repository status (2W7W)
- NCBO (2W7X)
- NEU (2W7Y)
- Raytheon-BBN (2W7Z)
- Bremen (2W80)
- UToronto (2W81)
- Ryerson (2W82)
- Mathet (2W83)
- SOCoP_INTEROP (2W84)
- DataONE (2W85)
- NeOn (KMi and STL) (2W86)
- ONKI they'd like to see (2W87)
- KBSI (2W88)
- MMI (2W89)
- Use Cases (2W8A)
- Architecture (2W8B)
- API (2W8C)
- Gatekeeping (2W8D)
- production OOR instance (2W8E)
- SIO (2W8F)
- Funding (2W8G)
- ICOM / DERI (2W8H)
5. Funding progress: (2W8I)
6. Any Other Business: (2W8J)
7. Action items: (2W8K)
8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn: (2W8L)
- Next Meeting: (2W8M)
- do we break for the rest of August? ... seems like a lot of people are either on vacation or traveling (our friends from Europe, especially) (2WB0)
- consensus: let's take a break for the rest of August (2WBX)
- revisiting the regular meeting date/time - Fridays 6:00am PDT still good for everyone? (2W8N)
- let's move our weekly meetings to Tuesdays 11:30am ET / 8:30am PT / 5:30pm CET ... Peter will send a message to [oor-forum] to see if there are huge (2WBY)
- the next "Architecture & API - VII" workshop (championed by KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider) is going to be Tue Sep-13 (2W8O)
- next regular OOR-team meeting will be (first Tue of Sep.) on Tue 2011.09.06 - 11:30am EDT / 8:30am PDT / 5:30pm CEST / 15:30 UTC - ref. worldclock (note: that Monday is Labor Day in the US) (2W8P)
- Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr (2W8Q)
- ref. our doodle poll (see: http://doodle.com/a2snxkpkd8hhxek4 ), looks like we can settle in on two new meeting times - a 6:00am PT (14:00 UTC) and an 8:30am PT (16:30 UTC) (or something in between) ... (2W8R)
- [decision/2011.04.01] we will have an OOR team admin-planning meeting first Friday of every month; and use the other Fridays for workshops to move work forward (2W8S)
- do we break for the rest of August? ... seems like a lot of people are either on vacation or traveling (our friends from Europe, especially) (2WB0)
- Call adjourned at: 7:27am am PDT (2W8T)
-- notes taken by: PeterYim / 2011.08.05-7:34am PDT All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings. (2W8U)
Resources (2W8V)
- homepage - OpenOntologyRepository - http://OpenOntologyRepository.org (2W8W)
- OOR Charter - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories. (2W8X)
- "Ontology Repository" Definition - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed" (2W8Y)
- Team mailling list: (2W8Z)
- OOR-Team discussion: [ oor-forum ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/ (2W90)
- OOR-Users discussion and support: [ oor-users ]''' message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-users/ (2W91)
- Developers mailling list: [ oor-dev ] message archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-dev/ (2W92)
- proceedings of our previous meetings, panel discussions and workshops (2W93)
- the Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussions: (2W94)
- 2008_02_28 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Ontology Registry and Repository Technology & Infrastructure Landscape" - Co-chairs: LeoObrst & FrankOlken; Panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MikeDean, MarkMusen, FarrukhNajmi & PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2008_02_28 (2W95)
- 2008_03_27 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-1" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: WilliamBug, EvanWallace, JohnLMcCarthy, KenBaclawski, PeterBenson & RexBrooks - ConferenceCall_2008_03_27 (2W96)
- 2008_04_03 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-2" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: DougLenat, DekeSmith, MarciaZeng, DeniseBedford, PatHayes, MalaMehrotra & RobRaskin - ConferenceCall_2008_04_03 (2W97)
- 2008_04_10 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR" - Co-chairs: BarrySmith & MichaelGruninger; Panelists: MichaelGruninger, PeterHaase, NatashaNoy & ElisaKendall - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10 (2W98)
- the OOR Development panel sessions: (2W99)
- 2008_08_22 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground: Identifying Synergies & Gaps" (Take-1) - Chair: LeoObrst; Panelists: MikeDean, MarkMusen, LiDing, BruceBargmeyer & BillAndersen - ConferenceCall_2008_08_22 (2W9A)
- 2009_02_19 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Getting OOR Development Off the Ground (Take-2): the work begins" - Chair: ToddSchneider; Panelists: MarkMusen, NatashaNoy, MikeDean, PaulBuitelaar / AndreasHarth, MathieuDaquin, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger - ConferenceCall_2009_02_19 (2W9B)
- 2009_07_16 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "Integrated tools for ontology development and management: A field guide to the Stanford technology" - Chair: MarkMusen - Panelists: TaniaTudorache, TimRedmond, NatashaNoy - ConferenceCall_2009_07_16 (2W9C)
- 2009_07_30 - Thursday: Joint Ontolog-OOR Panel Discussion: "BioPortal and related Ontology Repository Implementations and Development" (Take-3) - Chair: NatashaNoy - Panelists: CarlosRueda, PaulAlexander, JohnGraybeal, MikeDean, StephenGranite, AlexGarcia, KenBaclawski - ConferenceCall_2009_07_30 (2W9D)
- 2010_02_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion: "Coordinating our Open Ontology Repository Software Development" - Chair: MikeDean - Panelists: JimChatigny, MichaelGruninger, KenBaclawski, NatashaNoy - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_02_19 (2W9E)
- 2010_04_01 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog Panel Session: "OOR Use Cases - Take-3" - Chair: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - Panelists: ToddSchneider, MatthewHettinger, KenBaclawski and MaximoGurmendez - ConferenceCall_2010_04_01 (2W9F)
- 2010_09_10 - Friday: Joint SIO-OOR-Ontolog Panel Discussion: "Common Logic (CL) Support for OOR" - Chair: JohnSowa - Panelists: JohnBateman-TillMossakowski, MichaelGruninger, CameronRoss, AdamPease, PatHayes - ConferenceCall_2010_09_10 (2W9G)
- 2010_09_17 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IV" Workshop - Co-chairs: ToddSchneider & MichaelGruninger - Panelists: ToddSchneider, MikeDean, NatashaNoy, ImmanuelNormann, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_09_17 (2W9H)
- 2010_10_15 - Friday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - discussion on the (post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_10_15 (2W9I)
- 2010_11_19 - Friday: OOR Panel Discussion - "(Post-BioPortal fork) OOR Architecture and API - Take-II" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & MichaelGruninger - Panelists: KenBaclawski+ToddSchneider, AldoGangemi+AlessandroAdamou, JouniTuominen+KimViljanen, EricChan - OOR/ConferenceCall_2010_11_19 (2W9J)
- 2011_03_04 - Friday: OOR "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-I" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_04 (2W9K)
- 2011_03_11 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-II" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_11 (2W9L)
- 2011_03_18 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-I - Chair: MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_18 (2W9M)
- 2011_03_25 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-III" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_03_25 (2W9N)
- 2011_04_22 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-IV" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_04_22 (2W9O)
- 2011_05_13 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-II - Chair: MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_13 (2W9P)
- 2011_05_20 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-V" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_20 (2W9Q)
- 2011_05_27 - Friday: OOR Metadata Workshop-III - Chair: MichaelGruninger - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_05_27 (2W9R)
- 2011_06_17 - Friday: OOR - "Architecture & API Specification Development Workshop-VI" - Co-chairs: KenBaclawski & ToddSchneider - OOR/ConferenceCall_2011_06_17 (2W9S)
- the OOR-IPR mini-series: (2W9T)
- 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: GeorgeStrawn - Chair: PeterYim - Panelists: JamieClark, JohnWilbanks, BrucePerens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09 (2W9U)
- 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: MarkMusen - Panelists: CameronRoss, AlanRector, JohnSowa, BrucePerens, JohnWilbanks, PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16 (2W9V)
- 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: LeoObrst - Panelists: PeterYim, MikeDean, BrucePerens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30 (2W9W)
- OntologySummit2008 homepage (2W9X)
- OntologySummit2008_Communique (2W9Y)
- OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda & Proceedings (2W9Z)
- The OOR Project Presentation (delivered at the OntologySummit2008 face-to-face workshop) (2WA0)
- [ ontology-summit ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2008-01/ (~5 months exchanges starting from Jan-2008) (2WA1)
- Our key content pages: (2WA2)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope (2WA3)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Organization (2WA4)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Process (2WA5)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Policy (2WA6)
- OpenOntologyRepository_IPR (2WA7)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement (2WA8)
- OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases (2WA9)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture (2WAA)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach (2WAB)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Roadmap (2WAC)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan (2WAD)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Funding (2WAE)
- OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchIssues (2WAF)
- OpenOntologyRepository_ResearchActivity (2WAG)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Development (2WAH)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Metadata (2WAI)
- OOR/ActiveMemberContribution (2WAJ)
- OOR Project site at SemWebCentral - http://oor.semwebcentral.org (2WAK)
- Public sandbox instance of OOR (OOR-sandbox) - http://sandbox.oor.net/ontologies (previously http://oor-01.cim3.net/ontologies) (2WAL)
- OOR_SandBox (2WAM)
- NCBO - BioPortal (2WAN)
- BioPortal's [bioontology-support] mailing list - see: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/bioontology-support (2WAO)
- NCBO-OOR development documentation - http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO-OOR_Development (2WAP)