Conference Call 2003-10-16

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-10-16    (7UQ)

Conference Call Details    (7UR)

• Subject: [UblOntology] project conference call Thu 2003-10-16    (7US)
• Comments/Agenda:    (7UT)
  • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (7UU)
  • Please post your suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (7UV)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (7UW)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (7UX)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (7UY)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (7UZ)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-10-16    (7V0)
• Date: Thursday, Oct. 16, 2003    (7V1)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (7V2)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (7V3)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (7V4)
• Participant Access Code: "031016#"    (7V5)

Attendees    (7V6)

• Attended:    (7V7)
  • PeterYim    (7V8)
  • KurtConrad    (7V9)
  • AdamPease    (7VA)
  • PatCassidy    (7VB)
  • MonicaMartin    (7VC)

• Expecting:    (7VD)
  • BobSmith    (7VE)

• Regrets:    (7VF)
  • MikeDaconta    (7VG)

Agenda Ideas    (7VH)

• Nov'03 f2f - (--input: ppy/ 2003.10.16_10:26_PDT)    (7VI)
  • charging for tutorial -- questionable    (7VJ)
  • general lack of time for real hands-on work at the F2F    (7VK)

Agenda & Proceedings    (7VL)

1) Welcome    (7VM)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone    (7VN)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (7VO)

• PeterYim volunteered    (7VP)

3) Roll-call of participants    (7VQ)

• see above    (7VR)

4) Face-to-face meeting (November 5-8, 2003) -- ref http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologWorkshop_Nov_2003#nid09    (7VS)

• a. Presentation & Tutorials    (7VT)

•    (7VU)
  • Presentation - possible project overview topics    (7VV)
    • status    (7VW)
    • path forward    (7VX)
    • what is UBL    (7VY)
    • feedback and guidance    (7VZ)
    • 4-5 block project plan    (7W0)
    • compelling belief in necessity of ontology    (7W1)
      • why formalization, what does UBL gain from it, what do others gain from it    (7W2)
      • overall methodology / formalization process    (7W3)
      • fine-grained methodology, moving up from UBL spreadsheets, especially existing definitions    (7W4)
      • now to craft optimal definitions (rules and guidelines, different types of “semantic properties”)    (7W5)
      • how could/should work converge    (7W6)
    • Kurt and Adam will work on the content and will present; Peter will do a one-slide opening    (7W7)

•    (7W8)
  • PeterYim will work out the logistics for selective remote participation    (7W9)
    • note that there will be no internet connectivity during the sessions, only speaker phone. Therefore, presentation materials will need to be ready at least one day before, and delivered to PeterYim (as a point contact for collection of workshop materials)    (7WA)

•    (7WB)
  • PatCassidy will be presenting remotely    (7WC)
    • Pat needs a partner who will be on location (tbd)    (7WD)

•    (7WE)
  • AdamPease voiced his concern again about the lack of people doing the hands-on formalization work    (7WF)
    • PeterYim concurs. Therefore it is important that we either put in more face time (to do more real work) , or be able to leave the meeting, having the organization and structure, and be comfortable about working virtually, in a distributed fashion.    (7WG)

•    (7WH)
  • Adam suggested to cut down on the Thursday morning presentations to make time for "real" work.    (7WI)
    • Peter expressed that the mutual presentation among our community members is invaluable for building rapport and teamwork, and should be left there, as Kurt had scheduled it now.    (7WJ)
    • Also impotrant to note is that, any message we need to deliver to UBL should best be presented in the Wed 3-5pm session. We probably will not have the same audience again after that.    (7WK)

• b. Saturday meeting place    (7WL)
  • chances are, we will not have a Saturday session.    (7WM)

5) Communication logistics & work protocols    (7WN)

• a. Formalization process debate: KIF vs Protege, et. al.    (7WO)

• b. Sigma tool    (7WP)
  • Adam and Peter will make an installation attempt on one of the publicly accessible servers <hopper.cim3.com> right after this meeting.    (7WQ)

6) Use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (7WR)

• a. PO / Invoice reconciliation    (7WS)

• b. Context-sensitive address rules    (7WT)

• c. Mapping between representations    (7WU)

             discussion of the above postponed.    (7WV)

7) Formalization issues    (7WW)

             discussion of the above postponed.    (7WX)

8) Sponsorship and funding    (7WY)

             discussion of the above postponed.    (7WZ)

9) Other business    (7X0)

             none    (7X1)

10) Next meeting date and adjourn    (7X2)

• next meeting: same time next week Thu 2003-10-23    (7X3)
• meeting adjourned 11:35am PDT    (7X4)

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 minutes captured by PeterYim on this wiki in real time 
 ppy / 2003-10-16_11:39_PDT    (7X5)