Conference Call 2003-10-09

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-10-09    (7SL)

Conference Call Details    (7SM)

• Subject: [UblOntology] project conference call Thu 2003-10-09    (7SN)
• Comments/Agenda:    (7SO)
  • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (7SP)
  • Please post your suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (7SQ)
  • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (7SR)
  • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (7SS)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (7ST)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (7SU)
  • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-10-09    (7SV)
• Date: Thursday, Oct. 09, 2003    (7SW)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (7SX)
• End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (7SY)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (7SZ)
• Participant Access Code: "031009#"    (7T0)

Attendees    (7T1)

• Attended:    (7T2)
  • KurtConrad    (7T3)
  • PeterYim    (7T4)
  • PatCassidy    (7T5)
  • BillMcCarthy    (7T6)

• Expecting:    (7T7)
  • MonicaMartin    (7T8)

• Regrets:    (7T9)
  • AdamPease (Sorry, I'll be travelling then)    (7TA)

Agenda Ideas    (7TB)

Agenda & Proceedings    (7TC)

1) Welcome    (7TD)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone    (7TE)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (7TF)

• PeterYim volunteered    (7TG)

3) Roll-call of participants    (7TH)

4) Face-to-face meeting (November 5-8, 2003)    (7TI)

• F2F meeting Days - Wed-2003.11.05 thru Fri-2003.11.07    (7TJ)
  • Kurt will need to coordinate with JonBosak again to re-confirm our need of the venue on Wed.    (7TK)
  • BillMcCarthy may not be able to make it on Wed morning (but it will try to reshuffle the schedule to make it possible.)    (7TL)

• Connectivity    (7TM)
  • PeterYim & JonBosak are still working on trying to get internet connectivity (since the place is behind the Sun firewalls nominally, therefore, it may not be possible at all.)    (7TN)

• to-do: (Kurt / Peter to draft meeting framework)    (7TO)
  • outline our topics for presentation to UBL    (7TP)
  • each participant to bring in their positions/presentations for group work    (7TQ)
  • invite "outside" participant to share ideas with us    (7TR)

• a. Tutorials    (7TS)
  • our presentation to UBL is scheduled for Wed 3~5pm    (7TT)
  • tutorial to be done at Wed 5~7pm, to increase the opportunity for UBL member participation    (7TU)
  • Bill suggests that the UBL participants should walk away with some kind of compelling belief in the necessity of ontological perspectives in their work. There is a lot of wisdom in the messaging work that can be codified, and that a top-down, ontological engineering approach is the right direction to pursue.    (7TV)
  • topics - Kurt's suggestions:    (7TW)
    • why formalization; what does UBL gain from it; what does everybody else gain from it    (7TX)
    • our overall methodology; our formalization process    (7TY)
    • how we plan to move up from the UBL spreadsheets -- the definitions in there (textual definitions, even more so than the data fields) are already 80~90% ready for conversion to KIF (ref. Kurt and Adam's assessment - remembering that Adam's approach is to start from the natural language semantics)    (7TZ)
    • how one crafts these definitions (that would be putting the tutorial in context)    (7U0)
    • delivering Bill's message - what is so compelling; how do we see ourselves moving forward; how dio we see them (UBL) moving forward and how both parties work will converge    (7U1)

• b. Saturday meeting place    (7U2)
  • Kurt will continue to enquire    (7U3)
  • we have yet to decide whether or not we want to work Saturday (at least, Adam doesn't)    (7U4)

5) Communication logistics & work protocols    (7U5)

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  • MikeDaconta is work on the installation with AdamPease's guidance    (7U8)
  • PeterYim will do the install for the community's shared use after that    (7U9)

6) Use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (7UA)

 discussion of above postponed    (7UE)

7) Formalization process    (7UF)

 discussion of above postponed    (7UG)

8) Sponsorship and funding    (7UH)

 discussion of above postponed    (7UJ)

9) Other business    (7UK)

 none    (7UL)

10) Next meeting date and adjourn    (7UM)

• next call, same time next week: Thu 2003-10-16 10:30~11:30 PDT    (7UN)
• call adjourned 11:23_PDT    (7UO)

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 minutes captured by PeterYim on this wiki in real time 
 ppy / 2003-10-09_11:25_PDT    (7UP)