Conference Call 2003-04-24

UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-04-24    (6C4)

• Conference Call Details:    (6C5)
  • Subject: [ubl-ontology] project conference call    (6C6)
  • Comments/Agenda:    (6C7)
    • Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (6C8)
    • Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda    (6C9)
    • please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting    (6CA)
    • VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc3.cim3.net:5800/    (6CB)
      • view-only password: "ontolog"    (6CC)
      • view-and-control pw: "ontology"    (6CD)
    • During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-04-24    (6CE)
  • Date: Thursday, April 24, 2003    (6CF)
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6CG)
  • End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time    (6CH)
  • Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (6CI)
  • Participant Access Code: "030424"    (6CJ)

• Attendees:    (6CK)
  • KurtConrad    (6CL)
  • MonicaMartin    (6CM)
  • AdamPease    (6CN)
  • PeterYim    (6CO)
  • JohnYunker    (6CP)
  • LeoObrst    (6CQ)
  • Regrets:    (6CR)
    • BobSmith    (6CS)
    • BillMcCarthy    (6CT)
    • SamHunting    (6CU)
    • BoNewman    (6CV)

Agenda Ideas    (6CW)

• can we re-visit the issue of sponsorship some time (later, if not at this meeting) --suggested by PeterYim/4.24.03    (6CX)

Agenda & Proceedings    (6CY)

Agenda    (6CZ)

1) Welcome    (6D0)

• KurtConrad took the chair.    (6D1)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (6D2)

• PeterYim volunteered to take minutes on the wiki in real time    (6D3)

3) Roll-call of participants    (6D4)

4) Communication logistics & work protocols    (6D5)

5) Status on proposed methodologies    (6D7)

6) Status on use cases    (6DA)

7) Report to UBL committee    (6DF)

8) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models    (6DJ)

9) Status of language & tools selection    (6DP)

10) Tasking    (6DQ)

11) Other business    (6DT)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (6DV)

Proceedings    (6DW)

1) Welcome    (6DX)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (6DY)

3) Roll-call of participants    (6DZ)

4) Communication logistics & work protocols    (6E0)

5) Status on proposed methodologies    (6E3)

• all present agreed that this is put to bed    (6E6)

6) Status on use cases    (6E7)

• John, Sue and Peter had a phone conversation on this. see meeting notes    (6EC)
• we would want to have the use case of "standard-A mapping to standard-B through using our "UBL-ontology"    (6ED)
  • John: additional steps may be necessary    (6EE)
  • our "UBL-ontology" is taken as a future universal e-business ontology that we are working towards constructing (for which UBL is just our starting point for our current work)    (6EF)
  • noting also that UBL would probably be merged into ebXML; UN/CEFACT and ISO standardization efforts.    (6EG)
  • JohnYunker pointed out that UBL is not just one ontology, but a merge of 4 different ontologies    (6EH)
  • AdamPease: could we just be extending an existing ontology    (6EI)
  • LeoObrst / KurtConrad: we could find gaps and where UBL is sub-optiomized    (6EJ)
  • MonicaMartin: how are we addressing context?    (6EK)
    • JohnYunker: SueProbert helped explain how UN/CEFACT is planning to handle it.    (6EL)
    • KurtConrad is having a dialog with EduardoGutentag and keep him posted (Eduardo is a subscriber to this community too)    (6EM)

7) Report to UBL committee    (6EN)

•    (6EQ)
  • Kurt will be posting and mailing our feedback within the next couple of days    (6ER)

8) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models    (6ET)

•    (6EV)
  • no update    (6EW)

•    (6EZ)
  • no update    (6F0)

•    (6F2)
  • LeoObrst: A lot of domain ontology effort spends too much time on re-creating what shoud have been in an upper ontology; therefore, any upper ontology is better than no ontology; for our purpose SUMO is a good one.    (6F3)
  • AdamPease: we could update SUMO if we discover something appropriate, I'll promise a fast turn-around    (6F4)
  • KurtConrad: what we are doing is having our [ontolog-forum] particle accelrator slam SUMO and UBL together    (6F5)

•    (6F7)
  • see also CCTS    (6F8)
  • it's not just UBL, but UBL and all the other things (like CC, BIE's etc.) that we will need to formalize    (6F9)

9) Status of language & tools selection    (6FA)

•    (6FB)
  • deferred to next week    (6FC)

10) Tasking    (6FD)

11) Other business    (6FG)

•    (6FJ)
  • posting to other communities to recruit more active members    (6FK)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (6FL)

•    (6FM)
  • Next meeting: Thu 2003-05-01 10:30-11:30am PDT (California time)    (6FN)
  • meeting adjourned: Thu 2003-04-24 11:30am PDT    (6FO)

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 Minutes taken by PeterYim in real time on the wiki
 2003-04-24 11:35am PDT    (6FP)