[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-15 (FY1)
Conference Call Details (FY2)
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-15 (FY3)
- Agenda Comments: (FY4)
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (FY5)
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting (FY6)
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (FY7)
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_15 (FYA)
- Date: Thursday, Sep. 15, 2005 (FYB)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock (FYC)
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour (FYD)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (FYE)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (FYF)
Attendees (FYG)
- Attended: (FYH)
- Expecting: (FYI)
- KurtConrad (G1X)
- EMichaelMaximilien (G22)
- ...(add your name here)... (FYJ)
- Regrets: (FYK)
- PeterYim (FYL)
- RexBrooks (will try to come, but likely not be able to) (G1Y)
- MitchRinger (G20)
- BrandNiemann (G21)
- BillMcCarthy (G23)
Agenda Ideas (FYM)
Agenda & Proceedings (FYN)
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda (FYO)
- KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone. (FYP)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (FYQ)
- Kurt Conrad volunteered (FYR)
3) Regular agenda suspended with only two participants (G26)
- EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts for 2005.10.20 discussion. (G27)
Meeting ajourned at 10:51 PST. (G28)
!!!! Remainder of Suspended Agenda (G29)
3) Roll-call of participants (FYS)
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future) (FYU)
- Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis): (FYV)
- Scheduled Ontolog Events (FZ2)
- Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - JonBosak - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull / PeterYim) (FZ3)
- Ontolog members should note that this replaces our regular Thursday Sep. 22 meeting (i.e. no 9/22/05 call) (FZ4)
- Thu Oct. 13 2005 - BarrySmith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy) (FZ5)
- Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep (FZ6)
- the original 10/27 date conflicts with the NCOR Inaugural Meeting, we are rescheduling this to Thu Oct. 20, 2005 (FZ7)
- EMichaelMaximilien will join Nicolas in organizing this event (FZ8)
- NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, MichaelGruninger and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it (FZ9)
- Fri Sep. 23, 2005 - JonBosak - on "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents" - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 - confirmed (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull / PeterYim) (FZ3)
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months (FZA)
- Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond - (FZB)
- John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy) (FZC)
- DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim) (FZD)
- NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy) (FZE)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull) (FZF)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse) (FZG)
- JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion) (FZH)
- other suggestions: (FZI)
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group (FZJ)
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel (FZK)
- Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project (FZL)
- Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ (FZM)
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time (FZN)
- Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team (FZO)
- PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness (FZP)
- To be brought up for discussion today: (FZQ)
- ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen (FZR)
- BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI) (FZS)
- BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck (FZT)
- DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html (FZU)
- DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C (FZV)
- PeterYim (new!): ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing) (FZW)
- Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to (FZX)
- suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa (FZY)
- Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond - (FZB)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates: (FZZ)
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful (G00)
- NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up? (G01)
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim) (G02)
- Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion (G04)
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel (G05)
- we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005 (G06)
- candidates for November, 2005 (G07)
- Rex: propose "Emergency Response" (G08)
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane. (G09)
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion (G0A)
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war) (G0B)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec. (G0C)
- PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards" (G0D)
- candidate panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?) (G0E)
- maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop? (G0F)
- DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it (G0G)
- 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question. (G0H)
- Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog (G0I)
- Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session (G0J)
- Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog (G0I)
- Upcoming Events of interest (G0K)
- Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Mark & Peter will be presenting their SMI/CIM3 Public Collaborative Ontology Development Server) (G0L)
- Peter to post link to the session (G0M)
- Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane) (G0N)
- OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. 15, 2005 - see: http://www.oasis-open.org/events/webinars/webinars.php (G0O)
- Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the JonBosak joint-program with Ontolog; RexBrook et al. also presenting. (G0P)
- Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City (G0Q)
- National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html (G0R)
- wants to know if call-in is supported (G0S)
- Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Mark & Peter will be presenting their SMI/CIM3 Public Collaborative Ontology Development Server) (G0L)
- EdDodds / BobSmith: Semantic Technology Conference in San Jose has a C4P due September 12 for March 2006 (G0T)
- PeterYim: since this is more a "commercial" activity -- educating the public nonetheless, which Ontolog definitely supports -- encouraging Ontolog members to participate "on their own" (and using Ontolog material where they feel appropriate) would probably be more appropriate than billing this as an "Ontolog activity". (G0U)
- Duane: call for paper - http://www.ift.ulaval.ca/%7Ekone/SWIG06/CSWWS2006-blog.htm (G0V)
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues (G0Y)
6) Follow-ups from previous calls (G0Z)
- post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_09_08 ElisaKendall's invited speaker session (G10)
- possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull] (G14)
- Duane: I brought the Ontolog comments back to UDEF ... it was well received ... help them focus their value proposition (G15)
- Duane will try to organize a conference with the parties cconcerned (G16)
- Kurt: also help us hone our ability to effectively engage the standards group (G17)
- Peter to e-mail the Ontolog comments to PatCassidy or anyone else who would be interested (G18)
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling (G19)
7) Current Project Status Report (G1A)
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work (G1B)
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) (G1C)
- Formalization issues (G1D)
- UBL Liaison update (G1E)
- [CCT-Rep] status report (G1F)
- Status of Protege-KIF project work (G1G)
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work (G1H)
- representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C. (G1I)
- UBL liaison report (G1J)
- Planning team report (G1L)
- AHIC candidate nomination status (G1M)
- Unfortunately, our nominee did not make it onto the list of advisors selected for the AHIC commission, which was officially announced on "HHS News" released Sep. 13, 2005. See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//health-ont/2005-09/msg00025.html T (G2B)
8) project work session / discussion (G1N)
9) New project proposals (G1O)
10) Sponsorship and funding (G1P)
11) Other business (G1Q)
12) Next meeting date and adjourn (G1R)
- regular call adjourned 10:51 am PDT (G1S)
- next call will be on Fri 2005-09-23 starting at 10:30 am PDT (G1T)
- that will be the Ontolog-CEW Joint Invited Speaker session featuring JonBosak on: "Governance in the Development of an OASIS Standard for Business Documents." (G1U)
- See: ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 (G1V)
- Once again, this is going to be on a Friday (and not on our regular Thursday time slot.) There will be NO CALL on next thursday. (G1Z)
-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by KurtConrad / 2005.09.15-10:52 am PDT (G1W)